Mental disadvantages

[Anth]

Hi,
I continue my conversion of DnD to GURPS.
In DnD5 the PCs have personality traits to help the players roleplay. Negative traits are called flaws and are worded like sentences.
These are NOT flaws, but curses, so players MUST roleplay accordingly, i.e. GURPS disadvantages.

The first ones were easy, the last ones got me stuck.

#1
"Fire terrifies me"
This one is easy: phobia of fire.

#2
"I like to bully others and make them feel weak and inferior"
Also easy: Bully.

#3
"I won't take no for an answer"
This one stumped me. Fanaticism? Stubborn?

#4
"I can't give a straight answer to any question put to me"
Instead of forcing the player to always give evasive answers I think it would be more fun just that people doesn't believe him, thinking he's lying all the time, as if others use of the skill Detect Lies would give a false positive. But I have no idea what disadvantage that would be.

[Anders]

Originally Posted by Anth

#3
"I won't take no for an answer"
This one stumped me. Fanaticism? Stubborn?

#4
"I can't give a straight answer to any question put to me"
Instead of forcing the player to always give evasive answers I think it would be more fun just that people doesn't believe him, thinking he's lying all the time, as if others use of the skill Detect Lies would give a false positive. But I have no idea what disadvantage that would be.

Odious Personal Habit is a great disadvantage for things that should give a reaction penalty. I think these are -5-examples, although depending on how extreme they are they could go up to -10. -15 is best not thought about.

[Anth]

Originally Posted by Anders

Odious Personal Habit is a great disadvantage for things that should give a reaction penalty. I think these are -5-examples, although depending on how extreme they are they could go up to -10. -15 is best not thought about.

Thnx.
Completely missed OPH.

[whswhs]

"I won't take no for an answer" could also be a quirk: Stubborn limited to a single point, or Stubborn especially focused on a single point. Though I agree that OPH is also possible.

[RedMattis]

Originally Posted by whswhs

"I won't take no for an answer" could also be a quirk: Stubborn limited to a single point, or Stubborn especially focused on a single point. Though I agree that OPH is also possible.

I'd say it depends on how literal we're being here.

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"Let me in!" - PC

"No." - Guard

"I told you to let me in" - PC

"I can't let you in without an invitation." - Guard

"Oh. Nevermind then" - PC
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...is barely a quirk.

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"Let me in!" - PC

"Nope. Not happening. You need an invitation." - Guard

Pulls gun "Let me in NOW!" - PC

"WHOA Dude, we can go to another club. Chill." - Other PC

"Don't get in my way. Unless this guard opens the door for me, I WILL TEACH HIM HIS PLACE!" - PC
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Is one hell of a disadvantage. Might work (for awhile) if you're literally the king of the domain.

[Anth]

Originally Posted by whswhs

"I won't take no for an answer" could also be a quirk: Stubborn limited to a single point, or Stubborn especially focused on a single point. Though I agree that OPH is also possible.

Originally Posted by RedMattis

I'd say it depends on how literal we're being here.

[...]

Is one hell of a disadvantage. Might work (for awhile) if you're literally the king of the domain.

The player agreed that the advantage would be almost unplayable as a disadvantage with self-control.
So we'll make it a quirk.

[lordabdul]

Originally Posted by Anth

The player agreed that the advantage would be almost unplayable as a disadvantage with self-control.
So we'll make it a quirk.

Heh I was just about to recommend doing that. A lot of the games where personality traits are encouraged to improve roleplay do not have, by definition, any actual mechanics to manage these things... and so they are, by definition, GURPS Quirks.

That said, I also think there's a pretty widespread misunderstanding of how to properly play mental disadvantages like "Stubborn". For some reason many people think it always leads to someone pulling a gun or a sword, but that's not how I see it. I'd recommend you discuss how you'd handle it in play with your player, but I guess you already did that so you're all set!

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Anth

Hi,
I continue my conversion of DnD to GURPS.
In DnD5 the PCs have personality traits to help the players roleplay. Negative traits are called flaws and are worded like sentences.
These are NOT flaws, but curses, so players MUST roleplay accordingly, i.e. GURPS disadvantages.

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#4
"I can't give a straight answer to any question put to me"
Instead of forcing the player to always give evasive answers I think it would be more fun just that people doesn't believe him, thinking he's lying all the time, as if others use of the skill Detect Lies would give a false positive. But I have no idea what disadvantage that would be.

Well, you might want to go directly to Divine Curse (p.132) in that case.

Not entirely helpful for determining point value, but when statting bizarre imposed misfortunes it's probably relevant...