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Old 07-06-2013, 05:10 PM   #1
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Default Enhancement: Symptoms, on (1 Injury Done)

Symptoms (1/3 HP Injury Done), *3
Symptoms (1/2 HP Injury Done), *2
Symptoms (2/3 HP Injury Done), *1
... are the official values. If I wanted to have Symptoms apply its' effects upon doing any injury at all, what would be a fair value? (I'm leaning towards *4).
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:19 PM   #2
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If I wanted to have Symptoms apply its' effects upon doing any injury at all, what would be a fair value?
I'd probably say "HP multiplier 1/N: multiply cost by N". That doesn't work for the 2/3 value, but I'm not a big fan of the 2/3 hp multiplier anyway.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:43 PM   #3
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I'd probably say "HP multiplier 1/N: multiply cost by N". That doesn't work for the 2/3 value, but I'm not a big fan of the 2/3 hp multiplier anyway.
I'd be more inclined to have it mesh with the speed/range table. 2/3 is the same as 1/1.5, so starting there as x1 we have...
1/5 x4
1/7 x5
1/10 x6
1/15 x7
1/20 x8

... and so forth.

Of course, this doesn't really answer the question of what a fair cost for "on any injury" would be. x8 should more than cover any normal human (x7 would cover nearly any normal human), but when you may be facing any number of things with any amount of HP, it's hard to put a fair cost to it. This may be the same as trying to get "infinite" DR and the like - determine the HP of the highest-HP enemy you are likely to face, and buy that amount.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:45 PM   #4
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I'd probably say "HP multiplier 1/N: multiply cost by N". That doesn't work for the 2/3 value, but I'm not a big fan of the 2/3 hp multiplier anyway.
Which would make (1/10 HP) a *10 modifier. That seems a bit extreme, but it may be balanced nonetheless. Hmm.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:23 PM   #5
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In the end, it's basically a 'transformation attack' which does wounding equal to (points*N), so it's mostly a question of what a wounding multiplier of N is worth.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:42 PM   #6
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Which would make (1/10 HP) a *10 modifier. That seems a bit extreme, but it may be balanced nonetheless. Hmm.
The limiting case would be to treat the "Symptom" as a Follow-up attack, which is sort of "Symptom, 0 hp or more."
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