07-07-2012, 09:50 AM | #31 | |
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Re: My In Nomine wishlist
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APG suggests a Superior is needed ... but only suggests: Eventually, relievers can gather additional power and additional Forces through faithful service. (p. 87, emphasis mine.) On the other hand, IPG suggests that the accretion can happen outside someone's command: Successful infernal spirits can gain experience and acquire more Forces. Eventually, if they aren’t smashed first, they will gain enough power to become a full-fledged demon. (p. 95) I don't know if that's a qualitative difference between Heaven and Hell, a difference between two authors' writing style, or a change in interpretation for the line that may require an errata ... but either way, it may be worth some clarification in an expansion. And of course, a big thing that Liber Auxilia (Book of Helpers) could provide is a sample adventure centered around minor spirits, just to show how it could be done.
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07-07-2012, 10:07 AM | #32 |
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Re: My In Nomine wishlist
I don't know if it's outright Canon Doubt and Uncertainty, but this entry in the FAQ implies it was never officially decided one way or the other: The difference between buying whole Forces and building them up
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07-07-2012, 12:57 PM | #33 | |
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Re: My In Nomine wishlist
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Besides what Rocket Man and Omegonthesane have mentioned, some suggestions for actually playing one of the unfledged (either as a PC - some folks are just that wacky - or an NPC) would be in order. What sorts of missions are they sent on? For that matter, are they sent on missions at all, or are they like Saints in that they choose what to do? Why don't they need Vessels or hosts to operate on Earth when every other Celestial does (including AAs and DPs)? How do they advance? How do they work with Corporeals, Ethereals, or other Celestials? (For that matter, do they work at all with Ethereals or other Celestials?)
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07-07-2012, 03:24 PM | #34 | |
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Re: My In Nomine wishlist
Be fair - they both get their subsections in APG/IPG too, as Rocket Man cited.
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More seriously, APG and IPG do give example un-fledged "PCs" and what they do with their lives, including a Gremlin of Nightmares whose purpose in life is to be The Monster Under The Bed in some subset of Earth, manifesting celestially to fill children with primal fear. I would generally envision most unFledged being put on low-risk, low-skilled assignments - things "anyone can do" more often than not, because neither side has the manpower to waste the talents of the fully Fledged on mundane things. I don't believe it ever explains why relievers and imps/gremlins are an exception to the rule about celestial forms being booted back to the celestial realm or Limbo after a certain length of time without Vessel-ifying. Forced to come up with an explanation, I would say something about how Fledging draws the Symphony's notice and annoyance, but I'd be more inclined to just drop that rule if it requires special exceptions to let the unfledged go around not having Vessels. The local table already had before I joined it. |
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07-07-2012, 06:02 PM | #35 |
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Re: My In Nomine wishlist
I believe the theory is that the unFledged are "too widdle" to be noticed. Don't ask me how a 7-Force demon is different from a 7-Force reliever. >_>
(And, yes, bearing in mind that there's stuff in the APG/IPG -- what more need be said? (And, again, I am open to persuasion; I made O_o eyes about a Book of Tethers, but was pretty pleased with the result.))
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