10-28-2011, 02:48 PM | #51 | |
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Anyway the effect on publishing is a side effect, the goal here is to kill schemes where you buy an easily liquidated asset shortly before closing the books, removing the cash from your balance sheet, then sell it just after the next fiscal year starts.
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10-28-2011, 03:10 PM | #52 | |
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But so far, it's looking good.
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10-28-2011, 03:29 PM | #53 | |
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Either your accountant is lying to you, everything I've learned studying and practicing accounting has been a lie, or that must be a bizarre state-specific thing. Federal (and state, for me) business taxes are based on income, not on assets, and inventory doesn't generate income until it gets sold. Having it sitting on its butt in a warehouse and causing overhead costs actually reduces tax liability, since those overhead expenses reduce taxable income. Basically, spending cash (or increasing accounts payable) in order to build up inventory shouldn't have any effect at all on income until that inventory is sold and generates revenue. Personally, I'm hoping for the bizarre state-specific thing, since neither of the other two options end well. |
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10-28-2011, 04:23 PM | #54 |
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Inventory and warehousing taxes are state-specific, yes.
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10-28-2011, 04:31 PM | #55 |
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I probably got some of my terminology wrong (my accounting lore doesn't go much above Quicken), but for the nuts and bolts about what's going on, I suggest the extremely informative (and relevant from an RPG publishing POV) article at:
http://www.sfwa.org/bulletin/articles/thor.htm If I'm reading this right, then everything changed in 1979 (!). One good quote: "[The ruling] eliminated a tax dodge, and thereby made it more expensive for publishers to carry inventory from year to year. As a result, publishers have cut print runs in order to minimize inventory. They have also become quicker to dispose of inventory -- i.e., pulp it -- before the end of the fiscal year." There's a bit more info here: "The economics and accounting practices are complicated, but the result is that publishers suddenly found it much more expensive to hold large inventories year over year." I suspect that, during RPGs' flush years, it was worthwhile to pay full tax value on assets in the warehouse, since it was reasonably certain to sell them. However, the migration of RPG publishing from an evergreen to a periodical format (again, mid-'90s by my memory) meant that publishers needed to be even snappier to clear items out of their warehouses. |
10-28-2011, 04:32 PM | #56 |
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10-28-2011, 04:33 PM | #57 | |
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Thank God. I was concerned that when Steven said that the U.S. changed the warehousing laws, he was implying that the asset / inventory / warehousing taxation that followed was also federal.
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Edit 2: In any case, thanks to Kromm and Steven both for helping clear up the situation and assuaging my panic. Last edited by Landwalker; 10-28-2011 at 04:37 PM. |
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10-28-2011, 04:40 PM | #58 |
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In this case, the situation publishers find themselves facing is a national one, thanks to the IRS and a 1979 Supreme Court ruling (see my links, above).
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10-28-2011, 05:38 PM | #59 | |
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The "just-in-time" or "lean production" strategy O'Donnell points out isn't something unique to the publishing industry, of course. It's widely taught and practiced across almost all manufacturing industries (and was really popularized by Toyota). For most industries, it's terrific. Unfortunately, publishing (or rather, writing, since the writer is ultimately the one in a squeeze) isn't one of them. And as an aside, I know people like to demonize the IRS, but they get a bad rap. The IRS didn't and still doesn't have anything to do with this. Congress writes the tax code. The IRS just carries it out and makes sure people follow Congress's rules (which Thor, and evidently many other companies and industries, weren't). It's like blaming the police department or state patrol if you get a speeding ticket—they don't make the rules; they just enforce them. |
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10-28-2011, 06:31 PM | #60 |
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Been there, tried that. The added expenses (extra personnel, shipping stuff between the two locations, etc.) of having an Austin office and Las Vegas warehouse went a long way toward mitigating the tax savings, to the point where it wasn't worth the headache and hassles.
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