05-29-2019, 07:10 PM | #191 |
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Re: The "right" value for a SHVY?
...the Superheavy is equipped with two "Cannon" :
- Attack 3 / Range 3 / Defense 5 of Superheavy and uses the "Partial Damage Table" ...OGREs are equipped with "Secondary Batteries" : - Attack 3 / Range 2 / Defense 3 - Ignore D attack results on it ...the Samurai is equipped with "Nihon-modified Secondary Batteries have the same range as Main Batteries" (Stated in the Nihon Supplement) : - Attack 3 / Range 3 / Defense 3 - Ignore D attack results on it Some interesting things to note : The Nihon-modified Secondary Batteries are the best weapon. SHVY Cannon were fielded before OGRE Secondary Batteries and have a better range. SHVY Cannon are physically smaller than OGRE Secondary Batteries being at least twice if not three times as small.
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05-29-2019, 08:31 PM | #192 |
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Re: The "right" value for a SHVY?
It's been working very nicely at 15VP in many games this past year for me.
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05-30-2019, 10:58 AM | #193 |
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05-30-2019, 12:36 PM | #194 | |
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Re: The "right" value for a SHVY?
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Players have been choosing some or none when viable, and that choice has not been impacting their odds of winning, just changes the tactics a bit. No one has been choosing a mostly SHVY force; it might be viable in some scenarios, but the number of forces get very thin on the ground; they might work, but no one has wanted to push it too much. They have proven, no big surprise, to be an unwise choice to take one in a thin line of defense because the line just gets spread too thin.
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05-30-2019, 04:11 PM | #195 |
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Re: The "right" value for a SHVY?
Thanks, that's useful info.
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05-31-2019, 07:49 AM | #196 | |
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That does give me an idea though, that might make an interesting scenario - using the combined Breakthrough/Raid concept (or even just using it as background and making it all Breakthrough), having a small (6-8) all-SHVY force to punch through the lines, with a second wave of all-LGEVs coming in to zoom through the hole and chew up the soft underbelly in an "Operation Newspaper" style attack. Make it something like the LGEVs must enter on a certain turn and must travel in the designated direction at full speed (and stay stacked at a certain depth) until they reach a certain point, which is well past the starting defensive line. Thus the SHVYs have a limited amount of time to punch the hole and secure a safe corridor for the LGEVs to get through or they're toast. It's also an interesting contrast between the D5 SHVY that can shrug off A2 or less (and A4 or less spillover) and the D1 LGEV that falls apart against almost anything that gets in range...
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06-02-2019, 01:08 PM | #197 | |
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06-23-2019, 03:18 PM | #198 |
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Re: The "right" value for a SHVY?
Ran a couple of SHVY stress test games today. Scenario testing on M1 where SHVYs are brutally hard to KO in the city. At 2.5 Au, the attacking players have always chosen some SHVYs in their force. Tried it today maxing them out: 18 AU = 7 SHVY + 1 LGEV.
Wins for both sides. Works fine as just another entertaining option which sets up different tactical choices for both sides.
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06-23-2019, 08:23 PM | #199 |
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Re: The "right" value for a SHVY?
The analytical part of my read the post and responded, "Good, solid playtest data to confirm 2.5AU as the best value."
The narrative part of my mind read the post and thought, "That poor LGEV pilot must have been wondering what the $#@% he did to wind up there." |
06-23-2019, 10:03 PM | #200 | |
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"I am the tip of the SHVY spear; tiny, but with a lot of momentum behind me!" The survival secret is to never be the only target available to opposition. Edit: Plucky LGEV in action on point: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1
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