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Old 02-03-2006, 02:26 AM   #1
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Default Cheat! and -asers

Hi,

Cheat!: You may have and use any one item that would otherwise be against the rules....

Therefore:

1. Can I "Cheat!" an entire -aser array so that i have 2 spare hands for weapons?

2. If yes, can I add to a "Cheat!"-ed -aser array?

Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:03 AM   #2
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You may have and use any one item that would otherwise be against the rules....
Notice the word "item."

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Laser Weapons
Laser weapons include any item with a name ending, more or less, in “aser.” Each laser weapon is a 2-handed weapon, but any and all laser barrels can be snapped together to create a single 2-handed weapon with the power of both. For instance, a Laser (+2) and a Dazer (+3) combine to create a Laser-Dazer (+5). Add another Laser and it’s a Laser-Laser-Dazer (+7). And it’s still just a 2-handed weapon.

However, the combined weapon can be broken down a piece at a time if necessary, and counts as one Item for each card making it up.You cannot Annihilate or Antimatter the whole weapon . . . just one card!

All laser weapons are considered “fire” weapons.
The rules here tell you that each -aser adds to a "weapon," but that each Item is still individual. You can't Cheat! the entire array. However, remember that normally, you can only use one Complex Item, so if you happen to have 2 Complex -aser components, you can Cheat! one of them so that you can have both.
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Old 03-07-2014, 04:12 PM   #3
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Default Re: Cheat! and -asers

But it is still A 2 handed weapon, so if you are cheating it because you don't have the hands, and add to it according to the rules it is still A 2 handed weapon. So wouldn't the cheat still work for it? Or would the rule regarding swapping cheated items come into play since it is then a different 2 handed weapon?
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Old 03-07-2014, 04:21 PM   #4
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Default Re: Cheat! and -asers

The word "Item" is defined in the rules. The entire array is a single weapon comprising several distinct Items. Cheat! can only help with one of the individual Items.
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Old 03-07-2014, 09:03 PM   #5
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So, you can cheat any one part of it, but once it is an array any part of that array is uncheatable? No matter the hands required, the multi item definition of the weapon makes it uncheatable in that form? I want to make sure I have this nailed down, because I KNOW there is going to be arguments at the next game.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:56 PM   #6
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So, you can cheat any one part of it, but once it is an array any part of that array is uncheatable? No matter the hands required, the multi item definition of the weapon makes it uncheatable in that form? I want to make sure I have this nailed down, because I KNOW there is going to be arguments at the next game.
No. One Item can be cheated per cheat card that you have, regardless of if it is combined with other "-asers" or not. You might want to do this if you come across two of the Complex "-asers" as you can only use one Complex Item at a time without a Cheat card.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:33 PM   #7
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Ok. I've got it now. Thanks for muddling through that one with me.
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