FP Damage and Undead / Machines

Kalzazz · 11-04-2012, 08:03 PM

What happens when a creature with FP NA is hit by an attack doing FP damage?

For instance - on our game
Party runs into a Vampire, Mage (using RPM) charges up a FP damage spell and wallops it with it

The Vampire has Fatigue NA

What happens?

Refplace · 11-04-2012, 08:12 PM

It gets to ignore the damage.
FP damage represents either a shock or a drain to your energy system and if you use a different system it will have a lesser or no effect.

Kalzazz · 11-04-2012, 08:21 PM

Any idea where that is from?

Ill admit, I thought it went directly off HT, but I am not sure

Anthony · 11-04-2012, 08:27 PM

Anything with fatigue n/a can neither spend nor lose fatigue. Innate Attack (Fatigue) explicitly states that it does not affect machines.

PK · 11-04-2012, 11:19 PM

Refplace and Anthony are right. If you're a machine or otherwise have the "No FP" feature, you simply ignore Fatigue Attacks. You lose HT instead of FP when you have an ability or extra effort that requires you to "spend" your FP -- in that case, you're intentionally overexerting yourself and pushing your limits, making you more likely to break down.

Kromm · 11-05-2012, 09:48 AM

Yep. The immunity to FP drain is nice, sure . . . and how often does that happen? It balances and perhaps more than balances being unable to use extra effort without spending HT, and requiring an Energy Reserve if you wish to use spells, advantages that cost FP by default, etc.

vicky_molokh · 11-05-2012, 10:38 AM

IMO, 'balanced' is indeed an understatement.
'Switching off' whenever you miss a meal, stay 16+ hours awake*, or are not getting enough oxygen.

* == Actually, the last one was not as clear in your reply back when I asked, but it seems like the most close-to-RAW for characters who do need sleep.

11-04-2012, 08:03 PM	#1
Kalzazz Join Date: Feb 2009	FP Damage and Undead / Machines What happens when a creature with FP NA is hit by an attack doing FP damage? For instance - on our game Party runs into a Vampire, Mage (using RPM) charges up a FP damage spell and wallops it with it The Vampire has Fatigue NA What happens?

11-04-2012, 08:12 PM	#2
Refplace Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Yukon, OK	Re: FP Damage and Undead / Machines It gets to ignore the damage. FP damage represents either a shock or a drain to your energy system and if you use a different system it will have a lesser or no effect. __________________ My GURPS publications GURPS Powers: Totem and Nature Spirits; GURPS Template Toolkit 4: Spirits; Pyramid articles. Buying them lets us know you want more! My GURPS fan contribution and blog: REFPLace GURPS Landing Page My List of GURPS You Tube videos (plus a few other useful items) My GURPS Wiki entries

11-04-2012, 08:21 PM	#3
Kalzazz Join Date: Feb 2009	Re: FP Damage and Undead / Machines Any idea where that is from? Ill admit, I thought it went directly off HT, but I am not sure

11-04-2012, 08:27 PM	#4
Anthony Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Berkeley, CA	Re: FP Damage and Undead / Machines Anything with fatigue n/a can neither spend nor lose fatigue. Innate Attack (Fatigue) explicitly states that it does not affect machines.

11-04-2012, 11:19 PM	#5
PK Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dobbstown Sane Asylum	Re: FP Damage and Undead / Machines Refplace and Anthony are right. If you're a machine or otherwise have the "No FP" feature, you simply ignore Fatigue Attacks. You lose HT instead of FP when you have an ability or extra effort that requires you to "spend" your FP -- in that case, you're intentionally overexerting yourself and pushing your limits, making you more likely to break down. __________________ Reverend Pee Kitty of the Order Malkavian-Dobbsian (Twitter) (LJ) MyGURPS: My house rules and *GURPS* resources. #SJGamesLive: I answered questions about *GURPS After the End* and more! {Watch Video} - {Read Transcript}

11-05-2012, 09:48 AM	#6
Kromm *GURPS* Line Editor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Montréal, Québec	Re: FP Damage and Undead / Machines Yep. The immunity to FP drain is nice, sure . . . and how often does that happen? It balances and perhaps more than balances being unable to use extra effort without spending HT, and requiring an Energy Reserve if you wish to use spells, advantages that cost FP by default, etc. __________________ Sean "Dr. Kromm" Punch <kromm@sjgames.com> *GURPS* Line Editor, Steve Jackson Games My DreamWidth [Just *GURPS* News]

11-05-2012, 10:38 AM	#7
vicky_molokh GURPS FAQ Keeper Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kyïv, Ukraine	Re: FP Damage and Undead / Machines IMO, 'balanced' is indeed an understatement. 'Switching off' whenever you miss a meal, stay 16+ hours awake, or are not getting enough oxygen. == Actually, the last one was not as clear in your reply back when I asked, but it seems like the most close-to-RAW for characters who do need sleep. __________________ Vicky 'Molokh', GURPS FAQ and uFAQ Keeper