Quick Question: Diffuse Immune to Grapple, But *Can* Grapple Others?

Stripe · 01-24-2015, 11:39 AM

As we're only hours from a game session, I'm seeking the answer to a question really quick. Just making sure I haven't missed a rule somewhere.

Rules as written and canonically speaking, is it true that diffuse characters are immune to grapples but can grapple others? Something . . . Something seems off about that. Dunno if it's a niggling forgotten rule in the back of my brain or not.

I do not have Technical Grappling nor am I seeking an answer from those pages.

Martial Arts, p. 115 state: "Diffuse fighters are immune to grapples, pins, locks, and so forth."

However, I saw no restriction to a diffuse fighter grappling others.

Just making sure that's correct. I'm pretty sure that diffuse fighters can grapple others, but you know how easy it can be to miss a rule in GURPS! ;-)

Seeking rules quotes and page number references.

Thanks!

Nereidalbel · 01-24-2015, 11:45 AM

Yep, that's right. While you can choose to grab anything and anyone you want, any attempt to grab you results in the attacker just going right through you. Superman had that problem in Man of Steel, actually; the amorphous metal could grab him all day, but, he couldn't really do anything to it.

johndallman · 01-24-2015, 11:47 AM

Useful examples: several of the Body of <Substance> meta-traits on B262-3 have Diffuse, including Body of Earth, and it would be hard to say that something with Body of Earth can't grapple.

Stripe · 01-24-2015, 11:51 AM

Okay. Thanks. Just making sure! ;-)

01-24-2015, 11:39 AM	#1
Stripe Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midwest, USA	*Quick Question: Diffuse Immune to Grapple, But Can* Grapple Others?** As we're only hours from a game session, I'm seeking the answer to a question really quick. Just making sure I haven't missed a rule somewhere. Rules as written and canonically speaking, is it true that diffuse characters are immune to grapples but can grapple others? Something . . . Something seems off about that. Dunno if it's a niggling forgotten rule in the back of my brain or not. I do not have *Technical Grappling* nor am I seeking an answer from those pages. *Martial Arts, p. 115 state: "Diffuse fighters are immune to grapples, pins, locks, and so forth." However, I saw no restriction to a diffuse fighter grappling others. Just making sure that's correct. I'm pretty sure that diffuse fighters can grapple others, but you know how easy it can be to miss a rule in GURPS! ;-) Seeking rules quotes and page number references. Thanks! __________________ . "How the heck am I supposed to justify that whatever I feel like doing at any particular moment is 'in character*' if I can't say 'I'm chaotic evil!'"? —Jeff Freeman

01-24-2015, 11:45 AM	#2
Nereidalbel Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ellicott City, MD	*Re: Quick Question: Diffuse Immune to Grapple, But Can* Grapple Others?** Yep, that's right. While you can choose to grab anything and anyone you want, any attempt to grab you results in the attacker just going right through you. Superman had that problem in Man of Steel, actually; the amorphous metal could grab him all day, but, he couldn't really do anything to it.

01-24-2015, 11:47 AM	#3
johndallman Night Watchman Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cambridge, UK	*Re: Quick Question: Diffuse Immune to Grapple, But Can* Grapple Others?** Useful examples: several of the Body of <Substance> meta-traits on B262-3 have Diffuse, including Body of Earth, and it would be hard to say that something with Body of Earth can't grapple.

01-24-2015, 11:51 AM	#4
Stripe Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midwest, USA	*Re: Quick Question: Diffuse Immune to Grapple, But Can* Grapple Others?** Okay. Thanks. Just making sure! ;-) __________________ . "How the heck am I supposed to justify that whatever I feel like doing at any particular moment is 'in character' if I can't say 'I'm chaotic evil!'"? —Jeff Freeman