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Old 05-06-2018, 08:52 PM   #1
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Default Does Knockback break a grapple?

Does Knockback break a grapple?

For either party (grappler or grapplee) that is.
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:40 PM   #2
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Default Re: Does Knockback break a grapple?

Maybe you could require a ST roll for each combatant that is an active grappler.

I'm not sure how to adjudicate a penalty to ST in proportion to the damage of the knockback.

Also, you could provide for knocking back the entire grapple using the combatants combined ST-2 vs. the amount of knockback damage. (Still require the ST roll to keep the grapple engaged.)

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Old 05-07-2018, 07:44 AM   #3
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Default Re: Does Knockback break a grapple?

For simplicity's sake:
  • If you're knocked back while grappling someone and you'd be strong enough to walk off with your victim (more than twice victim's ST), your victim is treated as something you're carrying and is knocked back with you unless you opt to let go.

  • If you're knocked back while grappling someone and you're not strong enough to walk off with your victim (more than twice victim's ST), you're knocked away and the grapple is broken.

  • If you're knocked back while someone is grappling you and they're strong enough to walk off with you (more than twice your ST), they may opt to keep you there or let you go.

  • If you're knocked back while someone is grappling you and they're not strong enough to walk off with you (more than twice your ST), you're knocked away and the grapple is broken.
In a mutual grapple, check both conditions.

Whether knockback is large enough to send both parties flying is getting too complex for this rules set.
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Old 05-07-2018, 08:18 AM   #4
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Default Re: Does Knockback break a grapple?

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Also, you could provide for knocking back the entire grapple using the combatants combined ST-2 vs. the amount of knockback damage. (Still require the ST roll to keep the grapple engaged.)
If you wanted to get technical, add BL, multiply by five and use the square root-2

(Sum(BL)x5)ˆ0.5

Because ST is exponential, that will give a more realistic value.

Non-math, GURPSy version is take highest ST, add 1/5 of everyone else’s, then subtract two.
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