05-06-2017, 08:51 AM | #1 |
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Upgrading Equipment Bond equipment
If a person has a cyberdeck with the Equipment Bond perk and gradually upgrades it to a better deck, at what point do you think he should lose his perk? When is the deck no longer the same deck?
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05-06-2017, 09:06 AM | #2 |
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Re: Upgrading Equipment Bond equipment
I'd be rather lenient there, as I would consider this bond to be more about the working environment (OS etc.), so unless there's some kind of paradigm shift there it's closer to adding a scope to a weapon bonded gun...
On the other hand, one might as well drive home the dark future aspect of Cyberpunk by sticking with the Microsoft Windows SLA. |
05-06-2017, 09:26 AM | #3 |
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Re: Upgrading Equipment Bond equipment
If he perform the upgrades himself (building gear or writing software), I would be generous. Same if he pay for or otherwise acquire bespoke upgrades tailored to his specifications.
If he just add 'store-bought' upgrades, I would be more stringent. Anything that give a skill bonus would loss the bond, untkl he refamiliarize himself. Likewise any software major updates. For minor hardware change or minor software updates, Perhaps an unbonused skill roll, failure=loss of bond ? Last edited by Celjabba; 05-06-2017 at 12:21 PM. |
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Re: Upgrading Equipment Bond equipment
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Now that I got the obligatory quote out of the way - I'd totally be fine with this. Whether you have someone doing it for you or otherwise.
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05-06-2017, 11:28 AM | #5 |
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Re: Upgrading Equipment Bond equipment
Upgrading is not the same as replacing and certainly not the same as selling or giving it away. So I would allow it.
I might require some time interval where it is lost if it was paid for or the alterations were so major, less so if the alterations were made by the user. It might even be a cool story point where the player is using the upgraded device and suddenly has an "Eureka!" moment or epiphany where it suddenly clicks and it starts working mid combat scene (like a tough hack). Just gave me an idea for a Special Purpose like advantage "Plot driven".
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05-06-2017, 11:46 AM | #6 | |
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Re: Upgrading Equipment Bond equipment
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Firstly, I agree, let him keep the Equipment Bond, as long as the upgrades are gradual enough that he retains familiarity. If he upgrades everything at once I'd charge him a "re-familiarizing" period of time and then let the Bond reapply. On a more formal note, it fails The Ship of Theseus on three of the four Aristotelian causes; formal (object's design has changed), material (that which it is made from has changed), and the efficient cause (the builder's have used different tools and techniques). It pretty much only retains the final cause, that it fulfills the same purpose. |
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