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Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
When trying to decide on a good war weapon for my 9 foot giant, I looked at the dueling halberd.
My guy's strong enough to wield it one handed without problem, but that seems like it would switch it from one Polearm skill to Spear and Axe/Mace. Anyone else think that that is a sing of Polearms being an atypically broad skill.
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09-12-2017, 04:09 PM | #2 |
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Re: Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
If you take a regular axe and put a spear point on it, do you need to use Spear skill to stab with it?
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09-12-2017, 07:43 PM | #3 |
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Re: Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
I don't know. Why wouldn't you?
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Re: Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
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If so, there's a precedent for using Axe/Mace for stabbing. |
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09-12-2017, 08:51 PM | #5 |
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Re: Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
But if adding a spear point to an axe allows one to use Axe/Mace skill to poke with it, then why wouldn't adding an axe head to a spear allow using it with Spear skill to swing with?
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Re: Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
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If you add an axe head, it becomes unbalanced and has a heavy striking head. This is why I ask "do any existing axe weapons use thrust attacks?" Because if so, then the Axe/Mace skill would also cover poking. The other question is generally, what other skill would you use for poking with an axe? I know with a pollaxe used one-handed Spear fits better than anything else does, so use that even though it's not a perfect fit, but what about short axes in general? |
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09-13-2017, 12:08 AM | #7 |
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Re: Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
That interpretation would make Polearm include one handed use as well as all axes, maces, etc. causing to be even more expansive of a skill.
And still not solving my issue of it covering what's at least two skills for one handed use.
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09-13-2017, 12:41 AM | #8 |
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Re: Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
How many halberdiers would have studied the craft intensively? It is after all a commoners weapon and while there would certainly be lore handed about there would not be many masters to find. On the other hand you can find masters in other commoner's weapons.
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Personally I think wielding a duelling halberd in one hand (ways it was never intended to be used) should not be straightforward, so using 2 skills seems appropriate to me. But if this isn't helping you I'll not bother you further. Last edited by Railstar; 09-13-2017 at 05:13 AM. |
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09-13-2017, 05:27 AM | #10 |
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Re: Dueling Halberds: one skill 2 hd but two 1 hd?
Just to add a thought...
Using a poleaxe technique requires the use of two hands/arms correct? If one uses it one handed, they aren't using the normal techniques for two hand use. The halberd in effect becomes little more than an ax in this character's hand even though it has the potential to be used as a polearm by a size 0 creature/being. Would you expect a smaller sized humanoid to use a dagger two handed because for it, the dagger is like a two-handed sword, or like a dagger because to size zero humanoids, that is precisely what the weapon is and how it would be used? In the end, that is a GM call. As a GM, I'd say that using a halberd one handed is not using it with the required two-handed grip necessary to get the best use of the weapon. It will lack the extra leverage gained using 2 hands. For intents and purposes, it becomes a long handled ax with a point on it. And for the record? I've seen reference to an ax being used to poke in a thrusting manner despite it having little in the way of a business end at that point of impact. It becomes largely little more than a hefty club used to jab. People need to realize that even though a sword may be a blunt tipped, there were times using it to thrust made sense. As has been pointed out in other threads, the shield is more than just a defensive contraption, it can be used very offensively, even to the point of using it to knock an opponent's shield out of line enough to force an opening for a follow up attack. |
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