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Old 01-10-2011, 11:06 AM   #151
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:15 AM   #152
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No, it doesn't. It depends entirely on your character concept. It's perfectly valid to have a Mage who can cast 3 spells in the same turn while he concentrates, but can't Concentrate and Move at the same time.

It may not be what the you or the OP wants, but it's valid nonetheless. I doubt I would take it for a Mage build either, but the Limitation exists and I thought it appropriate to point it out.
I never said it wasn't a valid limitation, it's great for thing like Psi...

But please point out 1 spell user build that would benefit for Compatimized mind with this limitation, and I will conseed my point
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:27 AM   #153
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I never said it wasn't a valid limitation, it's great for thing like Psi...

But please point out 1 spell user build that would benefit for Compatimized mind with this limitation, and I will conseed my point
Any spell user that wants to cast multiple spells that don't require attack actions.

FREX:

Force Dome and Major Healing (i.e. Turtle Mode)

Invisibility and Flight (for escape the next turn)

etc.

As I said, it's not a great build and I probably wouldn't do it (-10% just isn't worth it), but it works in some situations.
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:51 AM   #154
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I'll leave off your very condescending pet shop analogy . . .
The point wasn't to be a condescending jerk, but to use humor to illustrate one of my favorite of life's cruel lessons: Sometimes when we ask for help, the help we get isn't the help we want but the help we need.

Although, in all fairness, my puckish nature may have lent a slight tone of condescension ;-)
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Old 01-10-2011, 12:17 PM   #155
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Any spell user that wants to cast multiple spells that don't require attack actions.

FREX:

Force Dome and Major Healing (i.e. Turtle Mode)

Invisibility and Flight (for escape the next turn)

etc.

As I said, it's not a great build and I probably wouldn't do it (-10% just isn't worth it), but it works in some situations.
Not really the Turtle Mage would want to Drop Shield/not pay maintain) Move + Cast, Else he much better of either more ER and/or More Regeneration than speeding up the drain even quicker.

And Healer Mage most definatatle want Move + Cast
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Old 01-10-2011, 12:46 PM   #156
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Not really the Turtle Mage would want to Drop Shield/not pay maintain) Move + Cast, Else he much better of either more ER and/or More Regeneration than speeding up the drain even quicker.

And Healer Mage most definatatle want Move + Cast
You're assuming that a Move will get you out of the dangerous situation you're already in (i.e. the reason he needs Healing). IME, that's rarely true unless your Move score is significantly higher than your opponent's, because you typically have to Turn as well as Move, reducing your overall Move. Unless you're backing up (at half Move), you often be exposing your back to a missile attack--or long reach.

Quite possibly you're adopting Turtle Mode because of a reduced Move situation; low FP, low HP, crippled/lost leg or foot, failed resistance roll against Rooted Feet, Glue, etc.

The build is also applicable on the offense; you can cast multiple spells of any type that doesn't require an Attack. This should leave any Area, Resisted, Information or Regular spell. You could cast 3 Tanglefoot at the same time (affecting 3 opponents simultaneously), or 3 Charm spells, etc.

And of course he'd *want* Move + Cast....that's why this is a 'Limitation'! :-)
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:11 PM   #157
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Did I read somewhere upthread that this character has a form of magical gadgeteering? If so, then build a magical ring of laying waste (or similar).

Or, with the nice high skill levels in *all* spells, start building up some massive powerstones, then quick-n-dirty some more conventional magical items of laying waste with levels of Power and/or dedicated/exclusive powerstones built in.
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:25 PM   #158
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You're assuming that a Move will get you out of the dangerous situation you're already in
Not I'm assuming the reason he can't wait for the next second to cast healing isn't going to be used move to get out of the way, but to get into danger to help his fallen complain before it's too late.

And the reason a turn mage want's to move and cast is his biggest weakness is oppentes moving out of effective range.
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Old 01-11-2011, 06:21 PM   #159
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http://www.grv.it/temp/newspells.pdf

Apparently the member Lupo has done something you could find useful.
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