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Old 11-21-2012, 05:44 AM   #1
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Vote up a Fantasy Setting
I’ve decided to run one of these threads. 
I give options, you vote (open invitation to forumites). I will break ties and provide further input as needed.
Once we have some idea of what the initial world set up and general outline of features is like, other posters will develop races, kingdoms, gods, and so on for use in the setting. Those will be voted up or down much as in VUASO.
All topics will be introduced by me, in order to keep some coherence. But feel free to suggest matters for voting and submissions.

EDIT: Initial votes have been tallied. Judgment calls have been made. The spoiler below is just for reference:

Spoiler:  



CLOSED TOPICS WITH CLEAR WINNERS:


Shape and Nature of the world: Mostly Earthlike, but with fantastic features (mainly geographic like floating islands, but regional fantastic micoclimates like a valley of endless summer are possible)



TL: TL 3 is default TL. TL 4 is max. Gunpowder is not universal. Use it if you like it, don't use it if you don't like it. But it is part of the setting. Primitive regions/nations/whatever are certainly possible.


Connections with other worlds: World-hopping is possible but rare

Gods: Mysterious and Distant (design the myths and religions that you like)




Magic: After two rounds of boting and considerable discussion:
PATH/BOOK is the winner. Note that the additional stuff like type discounts , power Talents, and so on from GURPS Powers is not being used, but supernatural Advantages are perfectly fine. Blessed, Oracle, and so on are okay.

OPEN SUBMISSIONS FOR RACES:
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread...13#post1480313


The first round draft picks are:

Centaurs

Biggams

Common Dragons

Dreamweavers & Watchers

Mohani



OPEN POLL:
More races, yes or no?

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:09 AM   #2
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Since I'm happy with my fantasy world rough sketch. I'll mostly vote it, unless something comes up I like more.

Shape and nature
Earth-like planet

Magic system
RPM

TL
Default and max of 4

Races
Humans and (semi-)humanoids only, with rare spirits

Connections
World hopping is possible but rare

Gods
Mysterious and distant
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:12 AM   #3
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Since I'm happy with my fantasy world rough sketch. I'll mostly vote it, unless something comes up I like more.

Shape and nature
Earth-like planet

Magic system
RPM

TL
Default and max of 4

Races
Humans and (semi-)humanoids only, with rare spirits

Connections
World hopping is possible but rare

Gods
Mysterious and distant
Noted.


I'd like to see where the other contributors take it before I put in my votes.



And yes, if something comes up that you like more, you can alter votes so long as you do so before the topic in question is closed.

I don't plan on closing all this very soon. But it depends on the volume of posts, the number of contributors, etc. Closures will be announced in advance.

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:14 AM   #4
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Actually, the first thing I think we should establish is: what kind of fantasy?

Swords and sorcery? Tolkienesque? Low fantasy? High fantasy? Mythic? Wainscot?

Sorry to hijack the thread for the moment, but fantasy goes in so many dire toons, I though it best to state what we're going for right off the bat.

I'll vote when I get back from work.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:25 AM   #5
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Actually, the first thing I think we should establish is: what kind of fantasy?

Swords and sorcery? Tolkienesque? Low fantasy? High fantasy? Mythic? Wainscot?

Sorry to hijack the thread for the moment, but fantasy goes in so many dire toons, I though it best to state what we're going for right off the bat.

I'll vote when I get back from work.


The votes on these initial questions/topics will actually answer that question, Faolyn.

I'm assuming that High Fantasy (meaning fantasy not set on Earth) is likely. Although Low Fantasy (set on Earth) or Wainscot is possible if people vote for 'Earth/'the real world'' as a specified 'Other' option
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I'm assuming that High Fantasy (meaning fantasy not set on Earth) is likely. Although Low Fantasy (set on Earth) or Wainscot is possible if people vote for 'Earth/'the real world'' as a specified 'Other' option
Does anyone aside from literary scholars actually use that definition (at least exclusively*)? It's a distinction that's normally so tangential to the story. Any definition that lumps together a story of great struggle of heroes against an evil overlord and another about a merchant trying to corner the market on wheat in the same category, but puts Merlin in a different category because it took place in Britain, is of limited use, IMO.

It seems like grouping squid with humans instead of octopuses, based on the fact that they have two different kinds of limbs.
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Does anyone aside from literary scholars actually use that definition (at least exclusively*)? It's a distinction that's normally so tangential to the story. Any definition that lumps together a story of great struggle of heroes against an evil overlord and another about a merchant trying to corner the market on wheat in the same category, but puts Merlin in a different category because it took place in Britain, is of limited use, IMO.

It seems like grouping squid with humans instead of octopuses, based on the fact that they have two different kinds of limbs.
I use it.

I don't know any other useful definitions for 'High' and 'Low' fantasy. Maybe you do know some.

But you've hit on part of the reason why I chose not to open with a 'what kind of fantasy' question. Vague or contestable labels would not help much, and might lead to a pointless tangent about literary subgenres. We aren’t marketing or reviewing a fantasy novel—we are designing a shared world for gaming purposes.

Better, methinks, to just ask a series of questions about setting to be designed. The answers will give us a basic picture of what things are like. If you wish to label the resulting framework 'high', 'low' swords and sorcery', or whatever, it doesn't matter to me. I won't quibble with your personal definition.

Does all that make sense?
YMMV, of course.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:16 AM   #8
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Yay! another one of these!

Mostly Earth like with fantastic geography (emphasis on fantastic geography)

Book/Path Magic from Thaumology (mixed with hardback system)

TL3 no gunpower. max and default.

Spirits and humans
you can do a lot with that.

Isolated
If we have lots of gates we should start with the cosmos, not a single world

Two opposed gods.
I favor them representing light and dark (not good and evil). This is because such a situation makes for good Epics.

Wow, I think I'm going for a low profile approach here. No pointy ears, no Dragons, the magic isn't flashy, but spirits roam the land, and two massive powers pit their strength against each other.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:22 AM   #9
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The definition I was taught:

"low fantasy" - Magic is something ordinary people use in their daily lives.

"high fantasy" - Magic is not something an ordinary person would encounter, but where it exists it is world defining.
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I use it.

I don't know any other useful definitions for 'High' and 'Low' fantasy. Maybe you do know some.
I prefer to make a checklist, and the more things are checked off, the closer it is to the platonic high fantasy. A world unlike our own (Mythic Britain is unlike our own world, despite nominally being our world, while Harn is quite a bit like our world, despite being completely fictional) certainly belongs on that list. Others are an epic scale, good and evil being an objective fact, and a variety of heroes (wizards can't solve every problem by casting a spell, warriors can't solve every problem by hitting it with a sword, even hobbits can shape the fortunes of all)*. That makes it very difficult to say "A is high fantasy, B is low fantasy" but that's par for the course of genre definitions.
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But you've hit on part of the reason why I chose not to open with a 'what kind of fantasy' question. Vague or contestable labels would not help much, and might lead to a pointless tangent about literary subgenres. We aren’t marketing or reviewing a fantasy novel—we are designing a shared world for gaming purposes.

Better, methinks, to just ask a series of questions about setting to be designed. The answers will give us a basic picture of what things are like. If you wish to label the resulting framework 'high', 'low' swords and sorcery', or whatever, it doesn't matter to me. I won't quibble with your personal definition.
Agreed on all counts (best not to ask, labels would be a distraction, and this thread would be siderailed if we continue this discussion here).

* A warrior centered fantasy tends more toward heroic fantasy, and rogue centered tends more toward urban fantasy.
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