04-19-2020, 12:53 PM | #11 |
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Re: Lorica Segmentata?
A brigandine coat (or 'coat of plates') was used more like a cheap, early cuirass to be worn over mail, not as a stand alone armor.
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04-20-2020, 12:49 AM | #13 | |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: Lorica Segmentata?
Steve's classic example in Melee is Flavius:
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04-20-2020, 01:55 PM | #14 |
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: New England
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04-20-2020, 02:18 PM | #15 | |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: Lorica Segmentata?
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Of course, Half Plate is weird in itself, in that, unlike the other armor types, the "half" part is not about how impenetrable the armor is, but about how much of the body it covers, and Roman armor focused on the torso at the expense of the limbs, while TFT tends to simplify to assume mostly whole-body suits of armor. So one could either argue lorica segmentata should be heavier than chainmail so protect more, or could argue that yes it's heavier protection, but doesn't cover as much as a full suit of chainmail, so rate it the same as chainmail. i.e. I think there's wiggle room and no definitive answer without first choosing a perspective to look at it from. |
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04-21-2020, 06:30 AM | #16 |
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Re: Lorica Segmentata?
As far as the weight of lorica segmentata, I remember reading an ad for modern lorica segnentata, made of 18 gauge steel, produced for re-enactors, weighing 25 pounds. Lorica hamata (roman armor covering about the same parts of the body but made of chainmail) is listed in wikipedia as weighing 11kg, which is 24.3 pounds. Not much difference at all.
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04-21-2020, 07:50 AM | #17 | |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Pacheco, California
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Re: Lorica Segmentata?
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04-21-2020, 12:00 PM | #18 | |
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Re: Lorica Segmentata?
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What I was more interested in with the weight comparison was that the solid plates of segmentata didnt weigh noticeably more than the chainmail hamata. |
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04-21-2020, 02:11 PM | #19 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Pacheco, California
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Re: Lorica Segmentata?
One thing that Melee does well is to consider the entire defensive setup.
Lorica Segmentata provides very incomplete protection without that large shield. So the combination is Leather + Large Shield for a good balance between speed and protection.
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