Attribute Adding Magic Items

[Anthony]

Given how significant attributes are in TFT, allowing a +5 bonus is really game distorting, and even a +3 bonus is huge. I'd be tempted by giving items both a magnitude (probably not more than +2) and a max attribute level they can grant, so a +1 (max 20) is far more impressive than a +1 (max 12), even though they're both the same bonus.

[Rick_Smith]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Given how significant attributes are in TFT, allowing a +5 bonus is really game distorting, ...

Hi Anthony,
I agree. In new TFT, you can earn from experience 8 attributes and buy 15 more if you are rich. Let us say that the attribute adders were more expensive and maxed at a +2. Then you could earn 8 and buy 6. What I had suggested before was that you could earn 10 and buy 0.

Warm regards, Rick.

[ecz]

once again I must say that the wise GM does not fear any rule.

In my opinion it's always possible avoid any negative collateral effect of such a magic items with good GMing .
I hope they stay in rules because add variety and open the path to new adventures.

Of course they cannot become common or be cheap. The original rules were not restrictive enough, in fact I simply doubled the required cost/time/ST for magic objects using an artifice.

if memory serves in the rules it was already suggested to GMs to not let players find/buy everything they want. I'm on this camp.

make magic objects rare, expansive, hard to find and to obtain, and you will automatically limit them .

Then also a ring +3 DX can exist at no harm for the system

[Rick_Smith]

Originally Posted by ecz

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If memory serves in the rules it was already suggested to GMs to not let players find/buy everything they want. I'm on this camp. ...

Hi ecz,
I don't recall that in the rules, can you give a reference?

Elsewhere in the rules, it does talk about ordering magic items from the wizard's guild.

One thing TFT did better than early D&D, was in D&D magic items were produced by dungeons. It never really explained how magic items were created. I thought that it was seriously cool in TFT, that one of my wizards could get smart, buy a lab, and make his own magic items.

Warm regards, Rick.

[Jim Kane]

IIRC, there are magic items listed in DT and DT2 which cannot legally be found by following the numbered paragraphs; but these items where put into the numbered paragraphs to entice players with red-herrings (if you read paragraphs you should not have), and also served to exposed others who claimed to their group GM that they got these magic items while playing solo through the adventure.

Also, IIRC the party were given magic rings which let them communicate if separated while in the labyrinth, but these rings had to be returned to the Testing Officer at the end of the adventure.

JK

[pyratejohn]

Back home from a long weekend at the ocean and...

40 year old spoilers ahead...

The ring I was thinking of was in DT1 and it wasn't an adder, it was the blur ring. And what a nice ring it is. I can't recall if that was one of the "you can't get to it" paragraphs or not.

In DT2, the ring at paragraph 38 gives speed Movement at no ST cost, but it reduces the wearer's DX by 3. The one at 152 reduces IQ by 4.

Widening the search to include non-SJ written products that will hopefully make it back into the fold someday, the sword at 292 in Security Station is +3 to DX.

[pyratejohn]

Flipping through Tollenkar's Lair I found a +1 DX crossbow bolt at location 54.

[Steve Jackson]

"It adds 1 to the shooter's DX when it is fired."

Do I need to rephrase that? That does NOT mean that if you have DX 10 and fire the bolt, you henceforth have DX 11.

[pyratejohn]

Originally Posted by Steve Jackson

"It adds 1 to the shooter's DX when it is fired."

Do I need to rephrase that? That does NOT mean that if you have DX 10 and fire the bolt, you henceforth have DX 11.

No, I think it is fairly clear it is a one-shot item.

[Skarg]

Originally Posted by Steve Jackson

"It adds 1 to the shooter's DX when it is fired."

Do I need to rephrase that? That does NOT mean that if you have DX 10 and fire the bolt, you henceforth have DX 11.

"Oh no! He's fired the bolt 5 times already! We have to stop him before his DX rises to super-human levels!" Hehehe!

I think it would be clearer to say it adds 1 to their adjusted DX to hit things with it.