11-27-2016, 03:19 AM | #21 |
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Re: Independent Innate Attack
The simplest I see is to take Extra Attack (as you did) and 'Extra Defense' but add Long to make the 'arm' as far as the attack (Long is much cheaper in my houserules, so it might seem too expensive to you). Adding Sacrificial Defense would just ice the cake.
Otherwise, I'm not entirely sure how you actually parry an attack with a normal IA, but Melee Capable with some house-ruled enhancement (or maybe just Reflexive) would let you parry with the attack (it would defined as a melee attack for parry purposes). 3e GURPS had a 50% on Surfing (I think? it was a 'type' of Flight) that lets it work while unconscious. Any defense power seems fair to me at that price (it protects you on it's own). Lastly, I don't know if any of that actually gives you a second chance to defend yourself. ATR (All Out Defense only -40?%) would do that. |
11-27-2016, 07:19 AM | #22 |
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Re: Independent Innate Attack
Shaun is actually one of the players in my DF campaign.
The situation is that he's trying to do a 'power defense'* using the halo/innate attack power. While I'm OK with the concept of a 'point defense system' the 11 point extra arm build (on page 1) seams too cheap for what he is getting. * If you are unfamiliar with power defense see either Powers or Psionic Powers, it's explained there. |
11-27-2016, 08:02 AM | #23 | |
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That way, as mentioned in a later post, if I want to use the skill as an attack later in the same round, I don't need to get multi-strike, or a rate of fire of more than 1 (depending on who you ask). Unless the use as a defense doesn't count against the use as an attack. It's not unbalanced, after all. Still, the question stands... Does it need to be used against the first possible attack because it's 'reflexive', or can I hold it back for another attack? |
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11-27-2016, 10:24 AM | #24 | ||
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11-27-2016, 02:31 PM | #25 | |
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11-28-2016, 12:39 PM | #26 |
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11-28-2016, 12:48 PM | #27 | ||
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11-28-2016, 01:15 PM | #28 |
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Re: Independent Innate Attack
What's that distinction actually do? There's no cumulative penalty for multiple parries, there's a penalty for multiple parries with the same limb. (Block doesn't expressly say it works that way, but I'd certainly rule it did.) Dodges don't have a penalty at all unless one is added, though if it is there might only be one 'line' of them.
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11-28-2016, 05:29 PM | #29 | |
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As for Psionic Powers: It's on page 8. under 'power defenses'. Apparently it is it's own thing there. |
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