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Old 01-31-2018, 05:55 AM   #11
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In the meantime, it's a wonderful thing that sites like Narkive exist.
Narkive also appears broken; just gives 404 errors for everything.
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:56 AM   #12
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You should be able to fix that by going to the Google Groups page for the list, clicking the "My Settings" button (the icon of a bust with a gear), selecting "Membership and email settings" in the drop-down menu, and then setting "Email delivery preference" to "Send daily summaries" or "Send combined updates".
Oh, hey, I missed this. Thanks for the information!
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:40 PM   #13
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Wanted to find an NPC from 2005 (Laver, the ethereal water elemental/bath tub) but the archives seem...gone.
I have what I think are all the messages back to 2002. Here's Laver:

Laver
Primal Bath Spirit

Corporeal Forces: 1 Strength: 2 Agility: 2
Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence:10 Precision:6
Celestial Forces: 1 Will: 2 Perception: 2

Element: (Classical Elements) Water.

Affinities: Water(Primal), Fire (Moderate), Glamour(Moderate),Entrancement (Slight).

Vessel: Large body of water/3, Charisma +3 (Bath - Essence cost: 150)

Skills: Artistry(Massage)/6, Knowledge (Hell's royalty/3).

Rituals: Summon Named Ethereal Spirit.

Dread: A disappointed bather/4.

Attunements: Partial Celestial Attunement(Lilith).

Artifacts: Talisman(Artistry{Massage}/6); is also an endless supply of bath salts and oils.

Countless cold, dirty, miserable humans have dreamt of a nice warm bath - and their dreams spawned Laver. Laver has no particular agenda: all it wants is to help people relax and be clean. It's very good at this; bathers frequently fall asleep, as the water massages the tension out of them - so Laver simply grants them the ability to breathe underwater.

Laver's name can be found in numerous sorcerous texts, with the simple deal Laver offers - summon it and provide the 5 essence it needs to power its abilities, and you will be delightfully pampered. Sorcerers in the know consider Laver one of the most useful spirits to Summon - any spirit can grant power, but Laver makes life worth living.

He's also a fine way to Damn your soul, although that wasn't his idea. Lilith was the first Superior to learn about Laver, and swiftly granted it the ability to Summon her - if she's going to listen to sorcerers offering deals, she may as well do so in comfort.

Besides, most sorcerers' brains melt when they see Lilith bathing, which makes them so much easier to manipulate and out-bargain. Andre and Eli are also regular patrons - Laver grants +4 to any attempt to Invoke any of these 3 Superiors. (Kobal has been known to captain ships whilst bathing in Laver, but that joke has apparently gone stale).

Laver is probably doomed - "Prince Andre is so nice!" Although Lilith is trying to keep Laver free (with aid from Eli, Marc and Yves!), Andre is determined to have Laver's services permanently at his disposal. If (when?) Andre succeeds, he intends to add 2 Forces to Laver, one from a Balseraph and another from a Djinn; then add his appropriate Band Attunements and the Sensitivity Attunement! Of course, all of this Infernal power is likely to warp Laver, but Andre doesn't care.
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Old 04-11-2018, 05:28 PM   #14
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As SJG doesn't seem to have had a robots.txt file, you can also just find it at archive.org, though searching won't work.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130707...n-nomine-list/ is everything.
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Old 04-12-2018, 10:51 AM   #15
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As SJG doesn't seem to have had a robots.txt file, you can also just find it at archive.org, though searching won't work.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130707...n-nomine-list/ is everything.
That's a good start, and I may have to start digging through it. I appreciate you digging it up!

Alas, it only goes back to 2001 and is missing a number of months from 2002 and 2001 as well as the prior archives.

There were also pre-2001 archives stored in a different location on sjgames.com.
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:27 AM   #16
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oh, excellent! Thanks all!
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