08-04-2020, 06:26 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Blocking with Large objects
OK, got a question for the crowd.
Let's say a character has super human strength, or perhaps a high level of TK. They've got hold of something big... say a full sized couch, or a car. And someone shoots at them. Can they use the couch (or car) to block the bullets with? Would that use the Shield skill? Would a car give a defense bonus? In general... how would blocking with something bigger than yourself work, assuming you had the power to move something like that as easily as a regular person uses a shield? |
08-04-2020, 06:40 PM | #2 | |
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: Blocking with Large objects
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In general, if it's being used close enough to be bigger than you and you only have ordinary senses, you can't see over it/through it to be able to Block with it. Instead count its HP and DR as cover. If you're using it at a distance where you can see to Block with it, then it should be usable as a shield and should get a defense bonus, but does not count as cover. |
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08-04-2020, 07:07 PM | #3 |
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Re: Blocking with Large objects
Also, on a realism note (which tends to politely ignore what's happening in universes with superpowers), car doors and couches are ineffective in blocking almost any bullet.
Armoured car doors can block some bullets; "bulletproof" is the calibre of bullet that armour will block. |
08-04-2020, 07:34 PM | #4 | |
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A big couch would probably suck up most of the damage from small caliber ammo, anyway. I would think. Last edited by Mirtai; 08-04-2020 at 07:40 PM. |
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08-04-2020, 07:37 PM | #5 | |
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08-04-2020, 07:57 PM | #6 | |
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York City
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If a TK was able to wield a car as a shield, I wouldn't use the shield mechanics. I'd use the Cover & Overpenetration rules (BB p.407-408). Effectively it's mobile cover not a shield. As a side note by RAW one can't use a shield to block bullets (BB p.375), However, there is an optional rule that does let shield users use them as cover. (Can't find the page) The shield takes damage as appropriate, but no DB. |
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08-04-2020, 08:02 PM | #7 | |
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York City
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However, you are 100% correct that rifle, shotgun & carbine (even pistol caliber carbine) rounds will go right through every part of a car except the engine block. |
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08-04-2020, 09:01 PM | #8 | |
Join Date: Dec 2013
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...yeah, remembering Demolition Range (youtube) gun test videos, a steel car door sounds about right to block 9mm and .22 pistol bullets. Maybe .32 as well, depending on the weight of car door. |
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08-05-2020, 04:42 PM | #9 |
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Re: Blocking with Large objects
How much is an indestructible shield-gadget worth? I'm not sure GURPS has that as an option (like, you can be virtually indestructible, or you can be insubstantial, but you cannot actually be immune to e.g. kinetic damage that can hit you).
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08-05-2020, 11:49 PM | #10 |
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Re: Blocking with Large objects
GURPS does, in fact, have that option. Check pg 78 of GURPS Supers. An indestructible shield with a DB of 2 would cost 42 points.
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