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Old 10-27-2011, 06:46 PM   #21
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Great. I wasn't expecting this release today.
No-one expects the Spanish Inqui... er, No-one expects Social Engineering!
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:54 PM   #22
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I guess that quoting Monty Python here seems like a sign of joy for this release :)

And it's not hard to understand: Social Engineering is a great book and a very useful contribution to the GURPS line.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:52 AM   #23
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Purchase-nated! Memes for everyone!
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:40 AM   #24
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the one thing I was surprised was not included was the ability to read minds and how it would effect your social roles...
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:41 AM   #25
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Wohoo, finally!

I can't wait to read it!
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:43 AM   #26
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the one thing I was surprised was not included was the ability to read minds and how it would effect your social roles...
As the beginning of Chapter 2 states, things like mental influence, mind reading, etc., are beyond the scope of the book -- as those don't represent social interaction so much as they represent an alternative to social interaction.

That said, there are many rules that give you a bonus for awareness of your target's emotional state, and Mind Reading would obviously give you that bonus every time. It's just not called out explicitly, as Empathy, Body Language, etc., are.
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Old 10-31-2011, 12:51 AM   #27
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As the beginning of Chapter 2 states, things like mental influence, mind reading, etc., are beyond the scope of the book -- as those don't represent social interaction so much as they represent an alternative to social interaction.

That said, there are many rules that give you a bonus for awareness of your target's emotional state, and Mind Reading would obviously give you that bonus every time. It's just not called out explicitly, as Empathy, Body Language, etc., are.
Where do I find those rules? I am having trouble finding them.
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Old 10-31-2011, 01:19 AM   #28
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Where do I find those rules? I am having trouble finding them.
The relevant mentions of Empathy are on pp. 25, 26, 32, 36, 37, 53, 56, and 71. Body Language is mostly nearby. You can find these by typing an appropriate keyword into the search box of your reader.

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Old 11-01-2011, 08:49 PM   #29
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The relevant mentions of Empathy are on pp. 25, 26, 32, 36, 37, 53, 56, and 71. Body Language is mostly nearby. You can find these by typing an appropriate keyword into the search box of your reader.

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As an aside on that I have a question or two.
Adding Powers to the book would have probably added at least a chapter so I understand why it was not included. However how much do you think adding powers, magic, psi, or even wild builds would add to the content of the book?
And would there likely be sufficient interest in a followup companion style book for them? And by interest I don't mean just the buyers as its probably too early to judge but author and editorial interest as well.
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As an aside on that I have a question or two.
Adding Powers to the book would have probably added at least a chapter so I understand why it was not included. However how much do you think adding powers, magic, psi, or even wild builds would add to the content of the book?
And would there likely be sufficient interest in a followup companion style book for them? And by interest I don't mean just the buyers as its probably too early to judge but author and editorial interest as well.
Kromm or Steven would have a better sense for that than I can. I've played a little with the idea of a powers book about social powers, but of course actually submitting it before SE came out would have been premature; much better to do so once we actually have sales data.

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