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Re: Segmented Plate - Pyramid Low Tech II what am I missing?
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09-27-2017, 04:55 PM | #52 |
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Re: Segmented Plate - Pyramid Low Tech II what am I missing?
IMO all types of armour provided very similar protection. Soldiers never chose a type of armour based on which weapons it could stop because all options were similarly protective. Other criteria were deciding factors: coverage, comfort, cost, weight, ease of maintenance, etc. The only time this changes is when firearms come onto the scene and nothing other than very thick plate stood a chance of providing protection. The heaviest extant breastplates are 8-9 mm thick on the chest. This is when other types of armour stop being worn all together.
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09-27-2017, 06:54 PM | #53 |
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Re: Segmented Plate - Pyramid Low Tech II what am I missing?
I fully get why mail would be the preferred armor for that flexibility allowing complete coverage, ease of repair in field, and breathability which is something few gamers seem to take seriously.
But if segmented plate is supposed to be useless, then for gaming purposes reality must be taken out back and shot or at least some leeway must be given to make it something other than a point of contention for characters in setting let alone players. I think my idea of making mail impossible to make cheap, but segmented plate can be allowing it to work for outfitting an army on the cheap. That assumes that such major demand for loads of iron doesn't cause an increase in prices negating some or even all of the point. But that wouldn't deal with the fact that brigandine was more advanced but doesn't have an option in this article that I can see.
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09-27-2017, 07:44 PM | #55 | |
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09-27-2017, 08:42 PM | #56 |
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Re: Segmented Plate - Pyramid Low Tech II what am I missing?
Which in Gurps/game terms means it can be made more cheaply. For GMs and players that aren't into super realistic details of outfitting large groups of soldiers, at least. That would be even more setting and time dependent.
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09-27-2017, 08:56 PM | #57 | |
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09-27-2017, 09:02 PM | #58 |
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Re: Segmented Plate - Pyramid Low Tech II what am I missing?
Well that would have simplified Low-Tech armor, wouldn't it?
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09-27-2017, 09:30 PM | #59 |
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Re: Segmented Plate - Pyramid Low Tech II what am I missing?
Not necessarily.
There's a saying in contract work; "There are three things; fast, cheap, and good. You can pick two." Mail seems to be Good and Cheap, where segmentata is only fast (it's the one 'that proves the rule'). So if you need to outfit 100 men in the next month, segmentata is likely the way to go, even if it's more expensive and crappier. |
09-27-2017, 09:42 PM | #60 | |
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Re: Segmented Plate - Pyramid Low Tech II what am I missing?
I think you totally missed the point of what Kromm was saying - which seems to me to have been that sometimes games shooting for realism have poor choices. Not everything has to be optimal. Just because your players see that mail is better than segmented plate isn't relevant. The option is there for players who need it.
Clearly using spells as advantages would be better for a lot of characters, but that doesn't mean that the magic system needs to be 'taken out back and shot'. Quote:
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