10-03-2011, 07:43 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Oct 2011
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card balance when using all expansions
Long story short the m friend moved away and took their Munchkin cards with them. so i'm planning on buying my own and looking at a bulk purchase of Munchkin+7 expansions (more than we used to play with).
my question is how balanced are the cards if i just combine all 8 sets into one deck? obviously certain cards will be uber rare because they will sit within hundreds of others, but does it matter? what about certain *types* of cards? is need for steed the only expansion with steeds? what about race/class cards? should i look into adding 2 of the main game or specific expansions to balance the overall distribution within the deck? or should i just play with a limited number of expansions at any given time and manually sort them back out later? |
10-03-2011, 08:02 AM | #2 |
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: card balance when using all expansions
frankly this is my biggest concern right now. from what i've read anytime you play with more than one core set or more than 2 expansions play with the fast rules (the ones that has you listening at the door and drawing a treasure card instead of a door car when looting)
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10-03-2011, 08:32 AM | #3 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: card balance when using all expansions
Races and Classes should be balanced with all the expansions, because each expansion adds in extras of the existing races and classes from previous expansions. Steeds, well Need for Steed has Steeds, and so does De-Ranged (Munchkin 5), and there is the promise of more in Munchkin 8, but yeah, Steeds might be a little thin on the ground if you add all the expansions in together.
If you are looking for a Steed-ier playing experience, you could just add 4 & 5 to the core set. I've done that, and it worked fine. My biggest problem with adding ALL expansions is that shuffling becomes nigh impossible (or at least VERY tedious). If I had an auto-shuffler, I'd use that, but absent that, you are looking at endless shuffling to try to randomize that many cards manually, and in my experience (perhaps I'm not a good shuffler?) it doesn't end up all that random by the time I give up and say, "I've been shuffling for half an hour, that's gotta be good enough". When I last played with everything, I lived in dread of any card that let you search through a deck, but then required shuffling afterward. (Don't think any happened to come up, though.) |
10-03-2011, 08:47 AM | #4 |
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: card balance when using all expansions
i'll have to look into the faster play rules.
my concern is mostly balance. i can handle shuffling. it takes a bit of time but with proper technique you can randomize the large set. my thoughts would be to randomize the whole set then probably just pull out blocks of 100-200 for each play, though there may be an advantage to knowing certain cards *aren't* in the deck. what about the demented dungeons set is that only the 16 portal cards and double sized cards? ive never played with this expansion. should i pull out my 200 cards for each play and then reshuffle the demented dungeons cards into the smaller subset then pull them out again when we are done? |
10-03-2011, 08:52 AM | #5 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Macungie, PA
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Re: card balance when using all expansions
Re: Shuffling large decks
Have everyone playing shuffle a section of the deck, split each section in half, combine one half-section with a different half-section, shuffle again and then combine. This spreads the workload and improves randomness. Also, if you play more than one game, unless you feel the shuffle was terrible, keep playing the next game with the top half of the remaining deck and shuffle the discards into the bottom half. If you can leave your cards as is, you won't have to start the game by shuffling the deck the next time your group gets together to play. |
10-03-2011, 01:49 PM | #6 |
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: card balance when using all expansions
yeah shuffling isn't too bad. i'm more worried about proper distribution of certain cards for balanced play. things like hirelings steeds wishing rings wandering monsters etc.
kinda like managing mana in magic the gathering, certain types of cards should have certain percent to show up I'd like to keep my ratios as optimal as possible and was hoping someone here had some experience in balancing that when using all expansions. |
10-03-2011, 03:40 PM | #7 | |
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Here on the perimeter, there are no stars
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Re: card balance when using all expansions
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In other words, Munchkin expansions are pre-balanced for your convenience. |
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10-03-2011, 04:06 PM | #8 | |
Join Date: Aug 2011
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