Neutralize as a reaction?

jhite · 03-30-2012, 03:01 PM

While re-reading Powers and looking at the Derange variant of Neutralize, I had an idea, but I'm not sure how it would be modeled.

How would you build a Psionic Neutralize (Derange) which couldn't be used as an active, offensive action, but instead affected all incoming Psi powers which targeted the Neutralizer?

Obviously, this would need to eliminate the need to touch the victim, which I would presume falls under Ranged. To make a reliable psychic null, I'd add Cosmic (irresistible). But what would make the Neutralization into a counterattack? Would Reflexive do the trick? Reflexive doesn't seem to fit exactly, though it's close...

the_matrix_walker · 03-30-2012, 03:12 PM

Total rewrite of my reply

You want Ranged, Uncontrollable Trigger (threatened with a power), (Unconscious Only Possibly), and reflexive.

Goober4473 · 03-30-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by the_matrix_walker

You would build it as an Aura,
Aura (+80%), Melee Attack (-30%) (to cover touch plus), Area Effect 2 (+100%) and Selective Effect (+20) if you don't want to affect everyone in your area, oh and Derange, (-20%) of course.

You may want to add an Accessibiliy too, to make it only work if they use a psi power on you. Otherwise, that automatically affects anyone you want in the area at all times.

Walrus · 03-30-2012, 03:24 PM

Neutralize already assumes Melee, so you can't include it. I'd say more, you should add +5% to represent that it can't Parry at default but Aura assumes just -30% Melee.

For such defensive only use I'd go with Reflexive and maybe the same modifier as Interruption, -50%. And just Ranged without Area Effect. You don't need to affect everybody in Area - just those who target you individually.

And you can't forego resistance roll at all with any level of Cosmic. You can only add a lot of Reliable and, maybe, new version of Cosmic which overcomes Rule of 16. Or go with Weaponized, No Roll Required, No Active Defense allowed and Ignores DR.

jhite · 04-02-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus

And you can't forego resistance roll at all with any level of Cosmic. You can only add a lot of Reliable

So you can't! Thanks for reminding me!

Not another shrubbery · 04-03-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jhite

So you can't! Thanks for reminding me!

You can bump up your Will. If you use the Psionic Powers model, you can increase your controlling skill.

03-30-2012, 03:01 PM	#1
jhite Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Massachusetts	Neutralize as a reaction? While re-reading Powers and looking at the Derange variant of Neutralize, I had an idea, but I'm not sure how it would be modeled. How would you build a Psionic Neutralize (Derange) which couldn't be used as an active, offensive action, but instead affected all incoming Psi powers which targeted the Neutralizer? Obviously, this would need to eliminate the need to touch the victim, which I would presume falls under Ranged. To make a reliable psychic null, I'd add Cosmic (irresistible). But what would make the Neutralization into a counterattack? Would Reflexive do the trick? Reflexive doesn't seem to fit exactly, though it's close...

03-30-2012, 03:12 PM	#2
the_matrix_walker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lynn, MA	Re: Neutralize as a reaction? Total rewrite of my reply You want Ranged, Uncontrollable Trigger (threatened with a power), (Unconscious Only Possibly), and reflexive. Last edited by the_matrix_walker; 03-30-2012 at 03:20 PM.

03-30-2012, 03:24 PM	#4
Walrus Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia	Re: Neutralize as a reaction? Neutralize already assumes Melee, so you can't include it. I'd say more, you should add +5% to represent that it can't Parry at default but Aura assumes just -30% Melee. For such defensive only use I'd go with Reflexive and maybe the same modifier as Interruption, -50%. And just Ranged without Area Effect. You don't need to affect everybody in Area - just those who target you individually. And you can't forego resistance roll at all with any level of Cosmic. You can only add a lot of Reliable and, maybe, new version of Cosmic which overcomes Rule of 16. Or go with Weaponized, No Roll Required, No Active Defense allowed and Ignores DR. __________________ MH Setting. Welcome to help.