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Old 05-21-2010, 08:00 AM   #11
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Default Re: Concentrated Defense rule from 3e

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But in duels there's not much point, since you generally have a mere -1 (maybe -2) for repeated parries, but need to burn FP to get better than -3 on repeated attacks. And that's assuming you use a one-handed sabre, not a staff-sword or a sabre+maingauche.
-1 assumes both a Fencing Weapon and Weapon Master/TBaM. And not all duels involve fencing weapons or people with WM/TBaM.

If you don't use a fencing weapon, you are at -2, if you don't have WM/TBaM, you are at -4 on those repeated parries.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:10 PM   #12
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-1 assumes both a Fencing Weapon and Weapon Master/TBaM. And not all duels involve fencing weapons or people with WM/TBaM.

If you don't use a fencing weapon, you are at -2, if you don't have WM/TBaM, you are at -4 on those repeated parries.
When one is using multiple attacks? Either you have Extra Attack, or DWA, or a high-level combo, or you have such a high skill that you can Rapid Strike. Really, this is mostly signifies cinematic or near-cinematic character: AoAs aren't something you normally take.
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Old 05-21-2010, 02:21 PM   #13
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When one is using multiple attacks? Either you have Extra Attack, or DWA, or a high-level combo, or you have such a high skill that you can Rapid Strike. Really, this is mostly signifies cinematic or near-cinematic character: AoAs aren't something you normally take.
Multiple Attacks can come from multiple attackers.

But also, a person with Skill 16, can use Flurry of Blows and do two Rapid Strikes at only -3...or skill 13. Completely within the realm of realism. If you don't allow Extra Effort within the realm of realism, then a skill 18 person can do a Rapid Strike at -6 for ultimate skill 12. Still very doable.

Also, in a completely realistic game, most of your unskilled fighters are probably taking AoA's all the time.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:12 AM   #14
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Multiple Attacks can come from multiple attackers.

But also, a person with Skill 16, can use Flurry of Blows and do two Rapid Strikes at only -3...or skill 13. Completely within the realm of realism. If you don't allow Extra Effort within the realm of realism, then a skill 18 person can do a Rapid Strike at -6 for ultimate skill 12. Still very doable.

Also, in a completely realistic game, most of your unskilled fighters are probably taking AoA's all the time.
If there are multiple attackers, then you'll have big trouble presenting only one side of your body to all of them. Now, rapid strikes are possible, but it's still stretching the skill level under most normal circumstances.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:38 PM   #15
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Also, in a completely realistic game, most of your unskilled fighters are probably taking AoA's all the time.
But those are probably AoA Determined, not Double. So that the default rolls have a reasonable chance to hit.
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Old 03-30-2017, 07:35 AM   #16
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On the defensive side, epee fencing feels sort of all about being compelled to uphold focused defense on the hand and arm while keeping something left for the body in case.
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