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Old 05-29-2014, 01:53 PM   #31
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Id say they can put on anything they need to, and leave it to GMs to assess penalties in situations where it might be tough to reach
I just had the funny mental image of a centaur ferrier trying to put his own shoes on.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:36 PM   #32
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I just had the funny mental image of a centaur ferrier trying to put his own shoes on.
An excellent example. Though I doubt Centaurs would actually nail anything to their feet, hooves or no hooves. Still, the bottom of the foot is going to be one of those awkward areas, no doubt. I can see it being done (though likely not while standing for the hind legs) though.

Definitely would look funny though.
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:01 PM   #33
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Just pointing out this topic has come up quite a few times before. One particularly relevant thread (that Kromm weighed in on) can be found here: http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread...hlight=centaur
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:14 PM   #34
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Has TPTB ever weighed in on why my mentioning the RAW trait weak arms is always ignored as if I were writing Etruscan?

That disadvantages seems purposely made for centaurs.

Horses need shoes, because they bear loads in captivity far in excess of those in the wild. Centaurs come pre front loaded with such huge torsos. Those front hooves need something non-horse like to survive.

"Realistically", they would probably evolved super thick front legs. But that detracts from their centaur-ness in my opinion.
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:06 PM   #35
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Has TPTB ever weighed in on why my mentioning the RAW trait weak arms is always ignored as if I were writing Etruscan?
Because it's ridiculously priced.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:12 PM   #36
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Has TPTB ever weighed in on why my mentioning the RAW trait weak arms is always ignored as if I were writing Etruscan?

That disadvantages seems purposely made for centaurs.
I mention it in the original post. As Anthony points out, Weak Arms is horribly priced when applied to the original 2 arms, and somewhat questionable even to extra arms (as it was intended). Since Centaur just have their original arms, its a bad build to use Weak Arms for them. So the hunt is on for a houserule.

Right now, I lean towards the partially limited ST, using NFM.

I dont disagree that Centaurs need shoes, I just imagine the wear removable ones, not ones nailed to their feet.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:42 PM   #37
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Horribly prices, but it's still the only RAW way to do it. So all the alternate builds should explicitly state that they are house rules.
Most other threads with house rules make it much more explicit than threads involving centaurs and a few others.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:51 PM   #38
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Have you considered using the regular ST score for their human strength, giving them the HP from their full body mass, and Extra ST (Accessibility: Carrying On The Back Or Dragging Only, -20%) for the difference? (Guessing on the Accessibility price.)
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:16 PM   #39
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Horribly prices, but it's still the only RAW way to do it. So all the alternate builds should explicitly state that they are house rules.
You mean, like this post from this thread?
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:22 PM   #40
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Have you considered using the regular ST score for their human strength, giving them the HP from their full body mass, and Extra ST (Accessibility: Carrying On The Back Or Dragging Only, -20%) for the difference? (Guessing on the Accessibility price.)
ST for human torso/arms
Extra HP to equal a horse
Lifting ST to equal a horse
Striking ST(Single Attack Only: Kicking) up to the horse's ST

That's how I'd do it.
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