02-07-2013, 03:52 PM | #1 |
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Social Engineering questions for Transhuman Space
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Several questions that concern playing a 'Face' sort of character in Transhuman Space: 1. Empathy and definitions of remoteness (Mostly a RAW/interpretation question.) Empathy requires a face to face meeting to function, unless you add the Remote enhancement. Now, obviously that precludes use of Empathy when teleoperating a shell. Supposedly it also precludes using it on an avatar of a human visiting a digital kindom. However, how does it interact with infomorphs? Obviously if two infomorphs are sitting in a bar in their shells and chatting, this is considered a face to face meeting. But what about gypsies and otherwise net-resident infomorphs? Would residing on a single cluster be considered the digital equivalent of being in the same room? Same physical server? 2. Indomitable, Computer Programming (AI), and the optional Machine Empathy (Mostly a preference question.) Changing Times offers to optionally split off AIs into a new category for purposes of Indomitable/Empathy. Do you prefer to treat AIs as other sapients, or to limit Influence skills to the level of CP (AI), or do you use the optional Machine Empathy advantage/category? 3. Fashion Sense (RAW question.) Is the normal version of Fashion Sense applicable to avatars in the specific cases when avatars can wear customisable, realistic clothes (think the EVE level of realism, but appropriate to TL10 and with much, much greater variety/customisability)? Can Fashion Sense apply to accessories, paint job etc. of an obviously non-human cybershell? (Now I'm imagining an Emkiss behaving like Dredger from Sherlock Holmes.) 4. Social Software (Miscellaneous question.) Any good social software write-ups? Programs for overriding involuntary functions of a bioshell to penalise Body Language etc.? Thanks in advance! |
02-09-2013, 01:42 PM | #2 |
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Re: Social Engineering questions for Transhuman Space
5. Animal Empathy, Empathy and Uplifts
Is there any overlap for Animal Empathy and Empathy for Uplifts, given that they can have a rather wide IQ range, and they still qualify as animals in some senses? |
02-09-2013, 02:42 PM | #3 |
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02-09-2013, 06:09 PM | #4 |
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Re: Social Engineering questions for Transhuman Space
Not really, or at least that depends on what you mean by sapient. Two self aware individuals of radically different species would not think or feel the same way at all. Look at how two humans from radically different cultures can sometimes seem like mutual aliens, and multiply that by 1000.
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02-09-2013, 06:11 PM | #5 |
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Realistically, I would like a mix like bonuses from both types of empathy averaging out depending on how far away from base an uplift is.. But that might be too middling. Definitely GM decided.
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02-09-2013, 07:41 PM | #7 |
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For Gurps general, maybe. But THS has the concept of low sapience in between non and full sapience. Uplifts would fall in that grey area.
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In terms of game mechanics? Nope. Either you are subject to influence skills without an enabling advantage or you are not. If you are subject to influence skills without an enable advantage -- such as Animal Empathy or Machine Empathy -- then you a valid target for Empathy and an invalid target for Animal Empathy. I took Vicky's question to be about the mechanics. If I am mistaken in that, then I'm wrong and I'll happily admit it. |
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02-09-2013, 09:47 PM | #9 |
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Re: Social Engineering questions for Transhuman Space
It's not obvious to me, since they may be consciously deciding what to do with their faces, or even letting some animatronic routine do it for them.
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Uh, Digital Mind by itself doesn't seem to do anything. Ghosts belong to whatever Empathy group they did before the upload, while AIs fall under a category that depends on your answer to one of the questions in the OP. |
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