09-11-2013, 12:10 PM | #11 | |
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I don't know that I would agree. Fates and Destinies have to be part of a conscious choice on the part of the character; simply dying in a horrible manner is not a Fate. A suicide can be a Fate, being murdered usually isn't ... although the circumstances that led to that murder may be a Fate! To use an example that came up in one campaign: if a child is abducted, brutalized and murdered, he or she has clearly met a horrible end. But being abducted and murdered is not a Fate because it's not something the child chose. (Which also avoids the moral problem of a brutalized child going to Hell because of its abuse, by the way; you can't force Heaven or Hell on someone.) I forget if it's core or in the FAQs, but it's mentioned somewhere that for a demon, the Destiny is always to Redeem and for an angel, the Fate is always to Fall.
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09-11-2013, 12:30 PM | #12 | |
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As in, for demons, they each have a Destiny of "to Redeem" and for angels, they each have a Fate of "to Fall". They can still have additional, more specific (i.e. more personalized individual) Destinies and Fates... Franklin
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09-11-2013, 03:42 PM | #13 | |
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Incidentally, is there any celestial in canonical In Nomine that yo-yoed? Meaning, an angel that Fell, Redeemed, and then Fell again, or a demon that Redeemed, Fell, and then Redeemed again?
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09-11-2013, 03:58 PM | #14 | |
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A Celestial who Redeemed, Fell, and Redeemed again would have a difficult time finding an Archangel to carry out the second Redemption. The only one I can think of who might do it is Novalis. And a Celestial who Fell, redeemed, and Fell again wouldn't be trusted by any of the Princes - they'd be wondering how much he told Heaven after the last go-round. Lilith might take in such a yo-yo, but it would be very expensive. None of this applies of the Celestial was ordered to yo-yo, of course ... but that's a rather gray campaign option.
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09-11-2013, 06:15 PM | #15 | |
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09-15-2013, 07:51 PM | #16 | |
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