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Re: The 0-point traitless character.
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And they don't have a blank character sheet. Military Rank and/or Duty...
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05-23-2018, 06:08 PM | #12 | |
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05-23-2018, 06:15 PM | #13 | ||
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It's more for developing IQ; that's how you reflect improvement in general knowledge rather than specific specializations. That said, most people will have picked up some more specific experiences as well as general knowledge. |
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05-23-2018, 06:19 PM | #14 |
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Re: The 0-point traitless character.
Since you're posting here and presumably live somewhere, you've got two of the 5 covered for sure. Since you post here, you most likely check off Games as well.
I think it's pretty clear that high school wants people to come out with some hints of specific competence in Writing and Mathematics (Applied), at least.
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05-23-2018, 06:42 PM | #15 | |
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Pretty sure I got out with Writing at default. But having known people for whom Mathematics (Applied) is a default, I'm pretty sure I managed a whole point in that one. Maybe it's a Dabbler skill though... I'm not much good once we stray too far away from MDAS and into the 'E' of PE (and I screw up Parenthesis too sometimes). |
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05-23-2018, 06:50 PM | #16 |
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Re: The 0-point traitless character.
A lot of real-world skills have the problem that they're actually a fairly large number of binary competencies (either you know how to do X, or you don't; if you don't know how to do X you might still be able to figure it out but it will be a lot slower and more error prone), whereas in GURPS having one point because you actually learned algebra means you can roll to solve a calculus problem, and probably aren't even that badly off (treating a year of high school math as a point, that's the difference between IQ-2 and IQ+0).
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05-23-2018, 06:57 PM | #17 | |
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But yeah, that's more resolution than GURPS likes to have.
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05-23-2018, 07:17 PM | #18 |
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Re: The 0-point traitless character.
As always, that Kromm post clarified a lot of things. Our 0-pointer is working off of default on everything, so like that post indicates, they're going to be disheveled, lost, boring, confused, AND computer illiterate... however, they're not Confused [-10], because they're not overstimulated by the world nor slow to learn; his or her current predicament is temporary.
There might be room for a campaign that started out with zero-point blank slates with the idea that the players will shape them into interesting and powerful characters in time. |
05-23-2018, 07:18 PM | #19 | |
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Now, a sixteen-year-old actually has Social Stigma (Minor) [-5], and doesn't have an extra reaction modifier for (Uneducated), as they aren't expected to be educated. But if they don't overcome (Uneducated) in high school, they will reach 18 and (Minor) will turn into (Uneducated). As I see it, Mathematics (Applied), for example, has two somewhat different aspects. One is knowledge of mathematics going beyond general education. But general education includes everything up to calculus, though depending on your IQ, your particular general education may only go up to arithmetic or algebra. Mathematics (Applied) is things like differential equations, spectral analysis, vector analysis, and numerical methods—basically, the tools of the physical (or more broadly the natural) sciences. But the other is the ability to reason about the real world using mathematical concepts and relations. And that can be based on "general education" math like plane geometry or even arithmetic; what's important is that the quantitative relationships aren't just abstract formulas that you've memorized, but that you can look at the physical world and see it in terms of quantities and relationships between quantities. An exceptional high school student could have that! But they'd want to buy the Advanced Learning perk (which can be credited toward buying off Social Stigma (Uneducated) when the time comes). And a high school student whose mathematics was mainly the ability to pass tests wouldn't have either the perk or the skill, I think. As for writing, well, I just saw a comment from one of my wife's oldest friends, who's a university instructor. She had been giving exams that called for short essay answers to questions. She has just decided that she will no longer do that at all in lower division courses; apparently the majority of her students—mind you, these are students who got into a four-year college!—express themselves so poorly in writing that it's very hard for her to tell what point they're trying to make, or whether it has any relevance to the question. She's going over to all multiple choice. I'm going to say that the students who get into that university clearly don't have even 1 point in Writing. And again, there are high school students who are exceptions.
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Ph.Ds often successfully publish papers that are atrociously written. That doesn't mean nobody ever tried to teach them to write.
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