Question by a newbie

tcabril · 05-09-2018, 02:06 PM

I am finally getting into In Nomine after all these years and its is awesome! I have been ordering the books online from Amazon and Ebay and I am enthralled.

As I said I am new to this but I found an inconsistency that I hope someone can clear up.

On page 28 of the main book it states that Angels and Demons start with 9 Forces. Page 121 of the Infernal Players Guide it states Demons get 7 Forces.

So what is it? I am tempted to say the Infernal Players Guide is correct as it came out after the core book but I just would like some clarification.

Thanks!
Todd

William · 05-09-2018, 03:47 PM

Welcome to the game!

A starting celestial PC on either side has 9 Forces. As background material goes, it's the case that Relievers fledge into angels at 9 Forces, whereas demonlings fledge into demons at 7 Forces. The exception is Lilim, who were never demonlings and are always created with 9 Forces.

So you will never see an 8-Force demonling running around. 7-Force demons do exist but haven't usually earned their way to Earth -- or they lost a couple of Forces in celestial combat or some other circumstance, as would be true for a 7- or 8-Force angel you saw.

tcabril · 05-09-2018, 06:43 PM

Thank you!
I am just at the reading and learning stage but so far I love it!!

Cooper · 05-10-2018, 11:44 PM

This breakdown has some nice storytelling advantages.

A game following a bunch of "new" 9-Force angels can pit them against a slew of weaker demons without violating the rules of the world. This would be the most common approach.

Alternately, a game following around a bunch of 6-Force Soldiers (or Undead) pit them against a demon who is a bit more powerful, but who doesn't outclass them as outrageously as a full 9-Force celestial would.

It is also possible to play a game with a bunch of newly fledged 7-Force demons who are fending the credible threat posed by Soldiers while attempting to defeat one or two "important" 9-Force Celestials.

Attercap · 05-12-2018, 08:57 AM

I think the latter idea provides and important point. More Forces may mean more raw power, but not necessarily better use. I've had a 6 Force Sorcerer NPC run rings around three 10 Force Demons without using any sort of GM Fiat or rule-breaks.

Whitelaughter · 05-15-2018, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tcabril

Thank you!
I am just at the reading and learning stage but so far I love it!!

There's a lot of experience available on the forums, so throw any questions, we'll be happy to answer.

tcabril · 05-22-2018, 07:05 PM

Is there any errata for the Infernal Guide?
The Infernal Players guide clearly states 7 forces....

cptbutton · 05-26-2018, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tcabril

Is there any errata for the Infernal Guide?
The Infernal Players guide clearly states 7 forces....

Errata

For page 121:

Quote:

Under II: Allocate Forces, demon PCs get 9 Forces.

Whitelaughter · 05-30-2018, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tcabril

Is there any errata for the Infernal Guide?
The Infernal Players guide clearly states 7 forces....

No errata is needed: a demonling becomes a demon on getting his 7th Force.

When he gets his *9th* Force, he can become a PC.

Motherriverwolf · 06-03-2018, 12:50 PM

Hi I'm new to the In Nomine game too and did the same thing you did. I purchased a bunch of books. I am reading them and trying to learn how to play the game. However, I am a bit confused as to how to get started. Can someone explain how to play the game to me. It looks amazing. I have the In Nomine Game Masters Guide, the Players Guide, The Angelic guide and many other of the other books. A bit confusing, the reading is fascinating. Do I need dice/die? I would love some help please. :) Does anyone have a game started online? Does one have to write their own idea for a campaign? Sorry if this seems silly. I apologize.
I used to play Star Fleet Battles when it was popular. Trying to get back into some role playing games online. I don't know of anyone around me that is interested.
Thank you!

05-09-2018, 02:06 PM	#1
tcabril Join Date: Mar 2010	Question by a newbie I am finally getting into In Nomine after all these years and its is awesome! I have been ordering the books online from Amazon and Ebay and I am enthralled. As I said I am new to this but I found an inconsistency that I hope someone can clear up. On page 28 of the main book it states that Angels and Demons start with 9 Forces. Page 121 of the Infernal Players Guide it states Demons get 7 Forces. So what is it? I am tempted to say the Infernal Players Guide is correct as it came out after the core book but I just would like some clarification. Thanks! Todd

05-09-2018, 03:47 PM	#2
William Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan	Re: Question by a newbie Welcome to the game! A starting celestial PC on either side has 9 Forces. As background material goes, it's the case that Relievers fledge into angels at 9 Forces, whereas demonlings fledge into demons at 7 Forces. The exception is Lilim, who were never demonlings and are always created with 9 Forces. So you will never see an 8-Force demonling running around. 7-Force demons do exist but haven't usually earned their way to Earth -- or they lost a couple of Forces in celestial combat or some other circumstance, as would be true for a 7- or 8-Force angel you saw.

05-09-2018, 06:43 PM	#3
tcabril Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Question by a newbie Thank you! I am just at the reading and learning stage but so far I love it!!

05-10-2018, 11:44 PM	#4
Cooper Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: A couple stars shy of Neverland	Re: Question by a newbie This breakdown has some nice storytelling advantages. A game following a bunch of "new" 9-Force angels can pit them against a slew of weaker demons without violating the rules of the world. This would be the most common approach. Alternately, a game following around a bunch of 6-Force Soldiers (or Undead) pit them against a demon who is a bit more powerful, but who doesn't outclass them as outrageously as a full 9-Force celestial would. It is also possible to play a game with a bunch of newly fledged 7-Force demons who are fending the credible threat posed by Soldiers while attempting to defeat one or two "important" 9-Force Celestials. __________________ //Read more at Liber Neglecta and Dictionaire INfernal//

05-12-2018, 08:57 AM	#5
Attercap Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portland, OR	Re: Question by a newbie I think the latter idea provides and important point. More Forces may mean more raw power, but not necessarily better use. I've had a 6 Force Sorcerer NPC run rings around three 10 Force Demons without using any sort of GM Fiat or rule-breaks. __________________ Attercap.Net - A ttrpg blog covering In Nomine, Call of Cthulhu, and more

05-22-2018, 07:05 PM	#7
tcabril Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Question by a newbie Is there any errata for the Infernal Guide? The Infernal Players guide clearly states 7 forces....

06-03-2018, 12:50 PM	#10
Motherriverwolf Join Date: Mar 2018	Re: Question by a newbie Hi I'm new to the In Nomine game too and did the same thing you did. I purchased a bunch of books. I am reading them and trying to learn how to play the game. However, I am a bit confused as to how to get started. Can someone explain how to play the game to me. It looks amazing. I have the In Nomine Game Masters Guide, the Players Guide, The Angelic guide and many other of the other books. A bit confusing, the reading is fascinating. Do I need dice/die? I would love some help please. :) Does anyone have a game started online? Does one have to write their own idea for a campaign? Sorry if this seems silly. I apologize. I used to play Star Fleet Battles when it was popular. Trying to get back into some role playing games online. I don't know of anyone around me that is interested. Thank you!