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01-12-2018, 05:34 AM | #1 |
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[Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
Charitable [-15] is a mundane mental disadvantage with a self-control roll (SCR). You are very aware of others' needs and feelings, and want to help people who need it. This applies to everyone you come into contact with, including legitimate enemies. If you should resist the urge to help, make a self-control roll, with failure meaning you do it anyway, even if that's against orders or puts you at risk. Charitable first appeared during the GURPS 3e period, where it was described as a "weak sense of duty to everyone," which seems like a legitimate way to play it. Responsive is a quirk-level version of this disadvantage.
Charitable is a reasonably common disadvantage option on templates, especially for healers. Taking it is a commitment that you aren't just looking out for yourself, and it may keep fantasy holy warriors and priests somewhat connected to ordinary people's reality. Space makes it a common disadvantage for gregarious species, and Zombies explores its interaction with victims of zombie plagues. As far as I can see, Charitable is not confined to financial help. We associate "charity" with money simply because Western society does so many things via money. However, it's a lot easier to be nice if you aren't worried about where your next meal is coming from.
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01-12-2018, 06:32 AM | #2 |
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Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
IMO the counterpart Advantage is Empathy, which lets you use your awareness of other people's feelings.
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01-12-2018, 09:36 AM | #3 |
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Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
Charity is the father of strength.
That was the creed of a religious knight I once played. Not quite his motto, which was either “Better to do right and die than to do wrong and prosper”, or “Better to die for the Kaiser than live for myself” (he was from a very Holy Roman Empire inspired background), but I don’t think I ever rolled a self-control check for that character’s Charitable. Body Language & Diplomacy to spot ruses? Sure. Once he knew it was a ruse the self-control check wasn’t necessary (Diplomacy allows him to predict the possible outcome when negotiating, which was really good when it came to figuring out whether they wanted help for their problem). Another factor is defining “help.” Usually the character satisfied Charitable with legitimate enemies by sparing their lives, treating their wounds, and releasing prisoners if it looked like death or slavery was going to happen if he kept them. Often in fights someone would be taken out of the fight after a crippling injury, so if he disabled 3 out of 5, he could normally convince the remaining 2 to drop their weapons so they could help their remaining companions to safety. He would take their weapons unless they were in a dangerous environment. Often against people he fought with a quarterstaff instead of his sword (with the Two-Handed Sword skill) so his enemies wouldn’t bleed out. In combat, if he stunned someone with an arm/leg injury, he would move onto the next target rather than finishing that other one off. It helped that this guy was Wealthy, and so didn’t need money all that much, and was in a religious order who was fairly supportive of his behaviour. He was also heavily armoured enough to use Sacrificial Dodge fairly frequently or throw himself into danger for the sake of others. In many ways he was from a background that made it easier to be Charitable. In essence, Charitable was mercy to his enemies, kindness to strangers, and loyalty to friends. |
06-01-2018, 12:32 PM | #4 |
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Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
Hello,
I know the last post in this thread was a couple months ago, so I apologize for necroing but I just have a quick question: What would it be called if someone "Just can't say no" to a specific person? I feel something like a mitigator to Charitable would work. Anything else? |
06-01-2018, 12:37 PM | #5 | |
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Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
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06-01-2018, 12:49 PM | #6 |
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Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
Ah. I supposed I should have been more clear. It's not like she feels obligated to help out this particular person it's just she is "aware of [his] needs and feelings, and want[s] to help [him]". More in the realm of the early stages of a crush than taking care of a elderly family member.
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06-01-2018, 05:37 PM | #7 | |
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Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
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06-01-2018, 06:04 PM | #8 |
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Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
What I've never been clear on is the distinction between Charitable and Selfless. Both would seem to take the form "compelled to help other people out, even at considerable risk to self" (Charitable suggests a failed self-control roll could lead to walking into a potential trap; Selfless forbids anyone failing a self-control roll from prioritizing even their own survival over the needs of others) but selfless is significantly cheaper. Is there something I'm overlooking, or is it just up to the player and GM to make sure that the character is selfless/charitable in proportion to the point cost?
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06-01-2018, 06:21 PM | #9 | |
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Whereas a Selfless person will put genuine needs of others first, but can refuse trivial or frivolous requests. Also, there's nothing in Selfless about walking into a trap, so I assume you can generally avoid that, too - you can say "Sorry, I know there's a beggar down that alley, but I can also see all those gangsters hiding with knives, and my life is better spent not being stabbed. I'll help someone somewhere else." |
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06-03-2018, 10:11 AM | #10 |
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Re: [Basic] Disadvantage of the week: Charitable
"Luke, it's a trap!"
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