08-08-2017, 06:13 PM | #211 | |
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With the very large contributing factors of lack of large population concentrations and carefully-maintained conservatism. Yeah, keeping TL low wouldn't be hard if it weren't for the Underground Engineers. :D
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08-08-2017, 06:37 PM | #212 | |
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As a consequence, the UEs require magical expertise to survive. If a tech revolution ever does come to Yrth, the outcome is going to be more Technomancer than Steampunk.
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08-08-2017, 07:12 PM | #213 |
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It wouldn't be difficult anyway. My Yrth doesn't have "Underground Engineers". Or a Ministry of Serendipity. Or patent offices. The highly intelligent have a distinct tendency to go in for magic, or alchemy, or the Church. Advanced offworld technology that somehow manages to be somewhat useful is treated like an exotic kind of magic item. They don't have the population for an industrial revolution and they aren't that impressed by handguns when their upper class are kitted out with generations-old enchanted armour and weapons.
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08-08-2017, 08:25 PM | #214 |
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The problem I like to point out with the entire tech suppression effort is even if seemed like a good idea now, it makes no sense at all when technology starts first appearing centuries ago. At that point, it's not a rival power, but it is a source of slightly better luxuries mages want just as much as anybody else. What motive do mages have to suppress, say, printing *in 1500* when it first starts leaking through?
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08-08-2017, 08:40 PM | #215 | |
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* The mages have Divination; they can see threats coming in advance. Ditto for the dragons. * But, yeah; not all technology was suppressed. Bits made it through when the mages find them useful or harmless. Aralaise ships and swords, a hint of clockwork, germ theory, etc.
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08-08-2017, 09:34 PM | #216 | |
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Either way, global perfect conspiracies involving humans simply do not pass the laugh test. Especially if it's the only one or only major one in a setting.
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08-08-2017, 09:55 PM | #217 | |
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But if you want a more potent cause for the tech suppression, just add a mysterious group of very high-powered beings who are suppressing it using incredibly powerful magic. Maybe even make them responsible for the Banestorm acting the way it did, as some sort of enigmatic plan of theirs. Heck, this could be a justification for adding "Fantasy Gods" to Yrth. Replace the Eternal faith with a belief in a pantheon of Native Gods who interfere with mortal lives. But who are also known for "assuming forms you are comfortable with", so the more benevolent ones approached the human newcomers in the guises of Angels and Archangels. All the while, trying to keep the newcomers from disrupting the status quo of Yrth too much. |
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08-08-2017, 10:57 PM | #218 | |
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The canonical strong hint in Banestorm (which I'm rereading in toto after too long, considering I'm running the setting at the moment) is dragons backing and/or manipulating the feudal powers and mages. Which makes some sense; what dragon wants organised groups of people with cannon?
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08-09-2017, 12:37 AM | #219 | |
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And printing did not come through alone; other technologies came with it. Enough, IMO, to plausibly motivate a mage somewhere to run a Divination on "what's going to happen to us if we keep allowing this technology to develop?". And, as mentioned, dragons. Who are well-motivated to take a long term view. Yeah, you could poke holes in it if you try. But it's close enough to work for me without shattering WSoD.
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08-09-2017, 02:04 AM | #220 |
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It's as sensible as most DF stuff, but Banestorm was intended to be a bit more internally consistent.
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