05-06-2012, 09:48 PM | #201 |
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The North American Combine
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Re: Sea Ogre
Either way, it's close enough for my purposes., and once again, thanks gents.
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03-13-2017, 01:04 PM | #202 |
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Re: Sea Ogre
Bumping this one to generate a little discussion.
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03-30-2020, 05:32 PM | #203 |
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Dallas
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Re: Sea Ogre
To save starting another thread. USMC Commandant released his Force Design 2030 this week. Based on new political focus on great power war and getting Marines back to their roots. Lots of wargaming shows that amphibious assaults against opponents with decent missiles would be too costly. Marines need to help the Navy stay in the combat area by defeating enemy assets and harassing enemy ships. Some of the recommendations:
No more tanks! Too hard to move, don't fit the new mission. Fewer towed guns but lots more rocket artillery - long-range precision fires. More heavy drones with offensive capabilities. New fast, smaller ships and drone logistics to move and sustain small, mobile Marine units. Might be a good framework for Playmate 6: Invading force of Marines, Missile Tanks, LADs, etc. and some made up landing craft or subs to bring them in. Defenders have mix of units and some cruise missile batteries that Marines have to take out by certain turn or the Combine Navy off map gets pasted. |
04-02-2020, 02:49 PM | #204 |
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: Sea Ogre
The talk about the USMC's emphasis on infantry groups and missile artillery gave me some ideas about fire teams of missile tanks with infantry screens forming the centerpiece of assaults, but that needs to percolate some more.
I wonder what it does to the AU cost of a missile tank to let it drive (but not shoot) underwater? |
04-02-2020, 09:36 PM | #205 |
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Dallas
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Re: Sea Ogre
Interesting concept of infantry/marines teamed with missile tanks. Maybe with marines it could be the notorious missile GEV!
Could also use GEV PC to bring the marines in close then they jump out and advance under water. |
04-09-2020, 06:21 PM | #206 |
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: New Jersey
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Re: Sea Ogre
I read page 1 and saw the unit stats. Are there any images of these? I'd like to try these units out, but would make counters first. If there are images, I can make counters.
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04-09-2020, 09:12 PM | #207 |
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Dallas
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Re: Sea Ogre
For images, something like the littoral combat ships for the smaller units? Lots of concept art online for futureistic naval craft.
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05-19-2020, 10:02 AM | #208 |
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: Sea Ogre
Littoral Combat Ships, as they currently exist, are fragile and practically unarmed. They're a place to land an ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare) helicopter, nothing more. In the Ogreverse you'd mount a laser tower on them and have them be a GEV tender - I can see some tactical utility there.
Cyberships are fascinating to me too, though, but the Ogre game engine is almost entirely unsuited for the glass-sledgehammers-playing-cat-and-mouse-with-each-other dynamic that is modern naval combat. BPC might change that dynamic, but it might not. A nuclear torpedo blowing all the water out from under a large cybersub (and just about all large combatants would be submersible) could mission kill it with blunt force trauma even without penetrating it's armor. Hmmm. Harpoon V is coming out in a few months - it'll be interesting to take it's [very likely] rules for railgun artillery, nuclear warheads, and laser point defense, turn the power curve up to 11, and see if there's any game left there. |
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