11-10-2016, 04:58 PM | #1 |
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Are all the rules in GEV in newer editions?
I'm an olde OGRE/GEV player, and I've browsed the newer wave of OGRE products, and I am wondering, with the new miniatures and hex-based rules in the OGRE Deluxe, OGRE Miniatures and OGRE 6e products, do they include all of the rules that were available in the old GEV microgame? IIRC, mainly other terrain types and some more detailed rules for a few things.
I have The (ye olde 1980's) OGRE Book but not Shockwave nor Battlesuit. I'm not cure in Shockwave actually added any rules or was just a new map, units, counters and scenarios? But mainly I'd just like to know, for OGRE Deluxe, OGRE Miniatures and OGRE 6e, do they include all the rules, or would someone wanting the most complete ruleset find any rules in GEV or Shockwave that are not in these newer editions? |
11-10-2016, 05:08 PM | #2 |
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Re: Are all the rules in GEV in newer editions?
The Ogre Designer's Editon (ODE) rules are the latest, but there are still some things not quite finished. Ninja, Vulcan, Heavy Weapons Teams, etc. For the most part though, ODE supersedes the older Ogre, GEV, Shockwave and Battlefields rules.
You can download the current rulebook for free here: http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/products...e_rulebook.pdf Scenarios here: http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/products..._scenarios.pdf Or start here and peruse until you pass out! http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/resources/ Last edited by Mack_JB; 11-10-2016 at 05:11 PM. |
11-10-2016, 05:37 PM | #3 |
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Re: Are all the rules in GEV in newer editions?
Oh wow, that's sweet! Thank you!
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11-10-2016, 06:07 PM | #4 | |
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Re: Are all the rules in GEV in newer editions?
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As mentioned already, the ODE rules are the most current and include the latest and greatest amalgamation of Ogre, G.E.V., Shockwave, and Battlefields rules. It did not incorporate every rule from every expansion; there are a few lesser-used rules that did not make the cut. Some of those may show up in later expansions, and there are a few rules that are unique to the 6th Ed of Ogre.
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11-10-2016, 06:10 PM | #5 |
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Re: Are all the rules in GEV in newer editions?
Battlesuit was a totally different game in the same setting. It was a squad-based tactical scale and used a dot map. There's basically zero relevance (other than fluff) to any edition of Ogre (or GEV).
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11-12-2016, 08:13 PM | #6 |
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Re: Are all the rules in GEV in newer editions?
Which is true, but GP said Battlefields. That one was an Ogre/GEV expansion that was a couple of new maps, and maybe a few counters, IIRC.
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11-12-2016, 08:32 PM | #7 | |
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Re: Are all the rules in GEV in newer editions?
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Battlefields introduced 4 maps (2 with GEV-style borders, and 2 with Shockwave-style borders so they could all be tiled against each other). The different maps introduced a number of new scenarios; some original, some do-overs of the original scenarios tweaked for the new layouts. Battlefields is also where Engineers, Militia, Revetments rules and the size table came from.
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11-13-2016, 04:47 PM | #8 |
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Re: Are all the rules in GEV in newer editions?
Aha, that's all interesting - thanks again everyone!
(And yup I knew Battlesuit was a related but other game about battlesuits in the same setting, but not if it had any related rules or not. And I either didn't know or forgot about Battlefields, which apparently did. It's all good.) |
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