11-08-2013, 02:52 PM | #31 |
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Re: 4 swings?
And yeah, using Extra Attack also does not qualify as 'normally' for purposes of that bit.
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11-08-2013, 03:00 PM | #32 | |
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Re: 4 swings?
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This attack options lets you with buying ANYTHING [so doesn't need Extra Attack] lets you keep your defenses [instead of using AoA(Double)], plus a -1 penitently to their defense if it the same target, though multiple targets are limited to adjacent targets. at the cost of -4. However if you Buy Extra Attack to get your second attack you don't NEED to take the Dual-Weapon Attack Option , which means no -4 penilty to hit, no limit to adjacent targets and you can keep you defences, However you don't get -1 penalty to enemy defenses because you did not take the Dual-Weapon Attack option Extra Attack will and an additional penalized attack to any maneuver that grants you attack already. However unless you have multistrike it must be with a so far unused weapon/limb/striker AoA(Double) lets you make an addational attack with no limitation on which attack it can be, the cost of loosing all your defences. These do Stack, some with Extra Attack(multistrike), Ambidexterity/Off-hand weapon traing and 4 levels of the approprate Dual-Weapon Technic, may make 4 attacks with no penilty, two of which will be at -1 to defend if they are against the same target, if not two of those swing need to be at adjacent targets. Hoover you will get no defences. the math works like Base AoA(Double) 2 attacks + 1 For Extra Attack (Multi), now one of those 3 attacks can be used with Dual-Weapon Attack option to convert them into swapped out attack for 2 attacks that meat the DWA restrictions. |
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11-08-2013, 03:10 PM | #33 | |
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Re: 4 swings?
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I'll spell it out in a slightly different way. You may apply either or both of the following freely: - All-Out Attack (Double) adds one attack at full skill, at the cost of losing your defenses. This doesn't limit you in any other way. - Extra Attack adds one attack at full skill per level, which happens at the end of your maneuver and requires a weapon/limb you haven't used that maneuver (unless you take Multistrike). You may apply one of the following once only: - Dual-Weapon Attack turns one of your attacks into two attacks, both at -4, which must be made with different weapons. - Rapid Strike turns one of your attacks into two attacks, both at -6, which may be made with the same weapon.
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11-08-2013, 04:45 PM | #34 | |
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Re: 4 swings?
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Okay, fair enough. It's hard to parse out what's included in each example. What's odd is how hard this all is to explain, but it works so smoothly at the table. :)
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11-09-2013, 06:39 AM | #35 |
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Re: 4 swings?
I know, right? It's like trying to explain the offside rule in soccer. You know you're in trouble when your explanation starts "It's perfectly simple..."
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11-09-2013, 07:18 AM | #36 |
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Re: 4 swings?
Didn't Kromm write a whole post once carefully breaking down how this all worked? I'd like to find that again but searching on "DWA" or "Extra Attack" doesn't narrow down the hits much on this forum.
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11-09-2013, 12:03 PM | #38 | |
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11-09-2013, 06:20 PM | #39 |
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11-09-2013, 10:24 PM | #40 |
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Re: 4 swings?
Uh. AoA is a Maneuver, not an attack option, so that half of it doesn't make any sense.
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