Extant Ogre Counter Sheets - Page 5

Cundiff · 07-08-2019, 08:58 PM

I'd rather counters were simply available, reprint if necessary, for purchase in the store. The exclusivity thing isn't nearly as important to me as is the ability to complete a set of counters for the game.

sparky00 · 07-09-2019, 07:37 AM

In the couple years since I've returned to gaming, I've found SJ Games to be people of their word, with a level of integrity that is seldom seen these days.

I wasn't around at the time, but from what i could glean off the website, SJG made the following commitments to the ODE KS backers:

1: Ogre Designer's Edition would be a one-time offering - no reprints. Copies were printed for both KS fulfillment & retail sale (I have one of those- thanks FLGS!), but there was only one print run.

2: The KS exclusive counter sheets would be exactly that - KS exclusives. This was an incentive to back the Kickstarter. Surplus exclusive sheets were sold on W23, but only to KS backers.

Given these commitments, I don't see how SJG could simply reprint the KS exclusive sheets and sell them.

Demand for the Vulcan and other units from the KS exclusive sheets has been high though, and SJG has been accommodating. A Vulcan, 3D drones & Doppelsoldner were included with the Ogre Miniatures book - copies are still available on W23, I believe. Its a beautiful book, with equally beautiful counters.

I believe a Vulcan & Engineers are also included in the Battlefields supplement set due to start shipping to KS backers soon.

Other than those routes, the only source for KS exclusive ODE sheets is likely to remain the secondary market. I was able to get copies for my ODE retail set, but it took much searching & patience. A kind soul on this forum was able to supply me with punched counters from his Q1 sheets at a fair price - which was perfect for me- my ODE set is very much a "player" rather than a "collector" set.

The SJ Games folks are extremely responsive to customer requests, as can be seen on these forums. The Ogre community are great folks as well. With patience & perseverance, I'm sure you'll turn up some Vulcans & Friends counters at some point. Don't forget the Boardgame Geek forums & Geek marketplace -they are excellent resources for the rare & obscure.

Cundiff · 07-10-2019, 09:03 PM

Free Market rules my thoughts on such things.

offsides · 07-11-2019, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cundiff

Free Market rules my thoughts on such things.

What I think you're missing is that the free market also takes into account things like reputation and trustworthiness, and companies can be and are hurt when those things are lacking. When SJG says that the sheets are exclusive, failing to keep them such negatively reflects on them and can inspire people to not support future endeavors where they make the same promises Thus, in my experience, SJG has been very careful NOT to promise to keep things KS Exclusive unless they really mean it, and has also done a good job of being very clear as to what is and isn't exclusive about whatever it is they're discussing (be it the entire item, specific colors, etc.).

Reskinning the KS exclusive sheets would be perfectly fine to me, but I know it also involves a certain level of investment requiring a certain level of expected sales, all of which has to be balanced against everything else out there. Yes, it may make competing a 100% collection that much harder, but I have no doubt that they will do their best to keep us Ogre fans satisfied as best they can.

Cundiff · 07-11-2019, 03:09 PM

I didn't miss that. I simply want what I want, the missing counter sheets to complete my set. The rest is just fluff to me. I vote with my dollars. Right now people want $100 a counter sheet for the Vulcan counters. Too much! Reprint for $25, I'll buy. The rest of that, I won't care about. It's that simple.

HeatDeath · 07-12-2019, 05:30 PM

I have a set of shrinkwrapped KS exclusive sheets. PM me.

Cundiff · 07-20-2019, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeatDeath

I have a set of shrinkwrapped KS exclusive sheets. PM me.

I have three times replied to your latest PM. I don't know what's going on, but my PMs and even my posts seem to be getting deleted.

You asked me what the going rate was because you didn't know. I've paid $25 recently for almost all my sets (multiple sheets or not) save for three.

I paid $45 for one
I paid $35 for another (a multi sheet set)
and I paid $30 for the third. (a multi-set with multiple sheets per set)

All else was $25 or less.

07-08-2019, 08:58 PM	#41
Cundiff Join Date: Jul 2018	Re: Extant Ogre Counter Sheets I'd rather counters were simply available, reprint if necessary, for purchase in the store. The exclusivity thing isn't nearly as important to me as is the ability to complete a set of counters for the game.

07-09-2019, 07:37 AM	#42
sparky00 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Parma, OH	Re: Extant Ogre Counter Sheets In the couple years since I've returned to gaming, I've found SJ Games to be people of their word, with a level of integrity that is seldom seen these days. I wasn't around at the time, but from what i could glean off the website, SJG made the following commitments to the ODE KS backers: 1: Ogre Designer's Edition would be a one-time offering - no reprints. Copies were printed for both KS fulfillment & retail sale (I have one of those- thanks FLGS!), but there was only one print run. 2: The KS exclusive counter sheets would be exactly that - KS exclusives. This was an incentive to back the Kickstarter. Surplus exclusive sheets were sold on W23, but only to KS backers. Given these commitments, I don't see how SJG could simply reprint the KS exclusive sheets and sell them. Demand for the Vulcan and other units from the KS exclusive sheets has been high though, and SJG has been accommodating. A Vulcan, 3D drones & Doppelsoldner were included with the Ogre Miniatures book - copies are still available on W23, I believe. Its a beautiful book, with equally beautiful counters. I believe a Vulcan & Engineers are also included in the Battlefields supplement set due to start shipping to KS backers soon. Other than those routes, the only source for KS exclusive ODE sheets is likely to remain the secondary market. I was able to get copies for my ODE retail set, but it took much searching & patience. A kind soul on this forum was able to supply me with punched counters from his Q1 sheets at a fair price - which was perfect for me- my ODE set is very much a "player" rather than a "collector" set. The SJ Games folks are extremely responsive to customer requests, as can be seen on these forums. The Ogre community are great folks as well. With patience & perseverance, I'm sure you'll turn up some Vulcans & Friends counters at some point. Don't forget the Boardgame Geek forums & Geek marketplace -they are excellent resources for the rare & obscure.

07-10-2019, 09:03 PM	#43
Cundiff Join Date: Jul 2018	Re: Extant Ogre Counter Sheets Free Market rules my thoughts on such things.

07-11-2019, 03:09 PM	#45
Cundiff Join Date: Jul 2018	Re: Extant Ogre Counter Sheets I didn't miss that. I simply want what I want, the missing counter sheets to complete my set. The rest is just fluff to me. I vote with my dollars. Right now people want $100 a counter sheet for the Vulcan counters. Too much! Reprint for $25, I'll buy. The rest of that, I won't care about. It's that simple.

07-12-2019, 05:30 PM	#46
HeatDeath Join Date: May 2012	Re: Extant Ogre Counter Sheets I have a set of shrinkwrapped KS exclusive sheets. PM me.