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Old 10-12-2018, 07:59 PM   #1
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Default Clairsentience (Projection) -- same penalty as Insubstantial, or no?

I'm looking at the various methods of projecting a viewpoint in Powers. There are quite a few -- Clairsentience, Insubstantiality, and Warp with various enhancements.

Right now I'm checking out Clairsentience (Projection, +140%), from p. 44 in Powers. This also references the Projection box just above it. I notice that this enhancement is specifically taken for the ability to use spells on the material world, but nowhere around here is mentioned the -3 that Insubstantiality gives to using such abilities. Should it be assumed to apply, or no?

I have a similar question on which spells in fact affect a projection. Insubstantiality says "(nonmaterial) magical attacks," whereas the Clairsentience Projection enhancement says the projection is vulnerable to "spells, mental abilities" etc. without the "(nonmaterial)" modifier. Still, I would be it was probably intended: so, for instance, a Clairsentience projection would not have to worry about a Fireball, but would worry about, say, Deathtouch. Yes? OR is Fireball still a problem for a projected clairsentience?
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: Clairsentience (Projection) -- same penalty as Insubstantial, or no?

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Right now I'm checking out Clairsentience (Projection, +140%), from p. 44 in Powers. This also references the Projection box just above it. I notice that this enhancement is specifically taken for the ability to use spells on the material world, but nowhere around here is mentioned the -3 that Insubstantiality gives to using such abilities. Should it be assumed to apply, or no?
Yes, you can only use powers on the physical world if you bought Affects Substantial on Insubstantial and even then the individual powers have to have Affects Substantial on them or if they have the right special effect (mental or magic) in which case they take a -3 if used without the enhancement.
In this case the Projection modifier treats the projected body as if it was built with insubstantial for most purposes.
The only real difference I can think of is movement and range.
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