07-30-2013, 12:34 PM | #11 | |
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Some other thoughts I had about the infected: Vulnerability (head shots): when Joel beats a Cordy to death with a pipe or throws one then stamps on their head it seems to explode, while human victims die less messily. Attack skill: Bad Sight or Blindness will give penalties to their attack skills (except in CC). This might be a good thing; if we assume most of their attacks are All-Out & Telegraphic then they might need these penalties to not be too deadly. This might also explain why Clickers & Bloaters are so fearsome, if their Scanning Sense removes that attack penalty. |
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With this in mind, stalkers are actually quite dangerous, because they have Bad Sight (Nearsighted) + Scanning Sense (radar, targeting) + Discriminatory Hearing, for a final modifier of -2+3(+4)= +1 or +5!!! Perhapse I should remove Discriminatory Hearing from Stalkers. Actually, after some thought, I felt that the infected had a too low brawling skill (from 10 to 12), so I incresed their value a bit (Bloater now have 14), but it is still to be settled definitively. I'm actually trying to figure out how to build some new equipment, like "baseball" & "dress & plate" armors, improvised weapons (baseball bat + scissors). Moreover I'm thinking about adding to all infected fire vulnerability/fear (as it seems it is a weak point for them, but truth is that being burned alive is a weak point for every inflammable organic being: in the videogame, Flamethrower is 1 hit-kill against all human enemies...) Thanks all for the support. If you're interested in following this work, you can find what I've created so far in this link: http://zanfire.blogspot.it/2013/07/t...-gurps-40.html
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07-31-2013, 09:17 AM | #13 |
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Re: The Last of Us GURPS - The Infected
First of all, I really like the sourcebook.
I am not sure about suggestions for the random infection rule. I will think about it. General ideas I can think of for factors that might influence things: CC or grapples are more risky. Gory splattering blows are more risky (major wounds, especially with cutting weapons). Longer reach weapons should reduce the risk. Dressing for the occasion might also reduce the risk (clothing that will stop scratches or blood reaches pre-existing scrapes, also surgical mask or safety goggles would stop mouth or eyes being used). Fight-bite, when you punch someone in the face and cut your fist on their tooth. Disagreeing with me is nothing to fear. I am not that scary. :D I would give the bonus from Discriminatory Hearing to attacks for Clickers & Bloaters since they are blind, so it definitely utilises hearing. I would not give Runners or maybe even Stalkers the same bonus, since their relatively better eyesight would reduce how much they utilise hearing to attack. On building equipment, GURPS Horror has an improvised weapons table. Some improvised armour is covered to a very limited degree by GURPS Low-Tech – essentially you make a skill roll at +4, the armour is cheap-quality (-1 DR), but you can do stuff like sew a pile of shirts together or make splinted armour. GURPS High-Tech has stuff like motorcycle helmets and football shoulder pads. I think another possible source is the Low-Tech Companion 2, Weapons & Warriors for rules on modified weapons, although it really applies more to purpose-built medievalish weapons than improvised ones. The general rule is if you want to add something sharp, like binding a shiv to a pipe to make a pick/axe, it is -1 damage but changes the type to impaling. Also look at the rules for special materials. A lot of things used for shivs or blades will often be inferior material to weapons-grade steel, reducing the stats further below the cheap-quality rules. Improvised gear could be a specialty of the Armoury skill. Fragile: Flammable might work to encourage the use of fire. I know there is not much difference between the effects on infected vs humans, but it might serve to mitigate the resistances that the infected have. Another factor to consider is for blind monsters the roar of flame and the stench of burning flesh is probably going to drown out their senses. I saw a problem with one of my earlier suggestions: Berserk gives immunity to stun and shock, which might not be wanted for Runners. Maybe On the Edge would be a better way to force Runners to neglect defence without enabling them to ignore injury? I might throw Bloodlust in there as well. Also, Noisy might be a good disadvantage to include. Runners tend to weep and pant, Clickers click, etc. For the army man template if you want to develop them, the Retired Soldier from GURPS Horror might be a good starting point. I hope all that helps. |
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*EDIT*: After some thought, is Bloodlust really necessary? I mean, I surely need something to explain that Infected NEVER spare someone, but is this Bloodlust? Even if I put it as Bloodlust (6), it may happen that, on a roll of 6 or lower, an Infected can "decide" to spare a person, which I think is NEVER possible (perhaps this can happen with a Runner still having some of its humanity, but surely not with Clickers and Bloater). Isn't perhaps better to just explain this kind of behaviour in the monster general description? Like alwasy!
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All that said, I believe it was Powers that had the option for traits lacking an SC number, making them be always on. If you really feel the need, simply give the infected this level of Bloodlust. |
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08-01-2013, 10:31 AM | #16 |
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Re: The Last of Us GURPS - The Infected
A random infection table could work. You could start with a base of chance of exposure (not necessarily infection) of 3-5, then modify for various factors.
-1 for each hex of distance you managed to keep between you and the enemy during combat. -1 for protected eyes/nose/mouth (blood splatter on goggles may obscure vision) -1 for stout clothing covering any possible scratches from blood splatter. -1 for a surprise attack. -1 for non-bloodletting attacks (shoving it down the stairs, throwing it out a window). +1 if you already have injuries that fluid could get into. +2 if striking with bare fists to face. +1 if you inflict a major wound. +1 if using cutting weapons. +1 if getting grappled (+2 if grappled and bare skin). Etc. My thoughts on Bloodlust is that nothing says the monster has to make a self-control roll. I would only make the roll if others are shooting at them and it's a really good idea to go for them rather than finish off the guy who is no longer fighting back. If someone is genuinely at the monster’s mercy they would never get spared. EDIT: I think a lot of disadvantages, such as Berserk or On the Edge, could just be covered the same way by saying "They always All-Out Attack." You could cover any behaviour in the monster's general description. Personally I like to do both and actually include the disadvantage because GURPS is super-flexible this way. Last edited by Railstar; 08-01-2013 at 09:43 PM. |
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At the moment I'm trying to complete most of the textual parts (factions, characters etc. etc.), leaving the GM part (how to GM Last of Us, themes, moods, adventures ideas etc etc) for last. When I'm done with this cool but a bit boring part (as I am italian and I need to translate most of the material), I'll focus on additional rules. I decided I want to write down game stats for most of the NPCs finded in the video game (Marlene, Robert, Bill, Tommy, David etc. etc. Even Joel!), in order to give the reader a more complete overview of the setting and people who inhabit it. The project is becoming quite huge in its purpose and will take quite an amount of time to be completed. If anyone want to give a try in writing characters stats or anything that can help the sourcebook, all help is appreciated (even graphic! And you will be, of course, credited among the creators of the project!). Quote:
*EDIT*: Scannins Sense (Radar, Targeting) has a range of 2000yards, which is almost 2km. It is far too much. Even with the Limited range /10 limitation, it goes as far as 200m, which is still quite alot for a Clicker's standard (and I like the idea of Clickers as quite dangerous but easy to outrun). So, is perhaps better to replace Scanning Sense (Radar, Targeting, Limited Range/10 [200m range]) with Scanning Sense (Imaging Radar, Targeting, Limited Range/10 [20m range])?
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08-03-2013, 11:49 PM | #18 |
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Re: The Last of Us GURPS - The Infected
I cannot really make helpful comments on the rest at the moment, but I have some thoughts about Bill (he is one of my favourite characters).
Overweight. Bad Tempered. Paranoid. Code of Honour (as much as he grumbles he should have left them to die, he still risks his life to save them – he has a sense of compassion, maybe even the Responsive Quirk – what else is risking your life for people you have no reason to like?). Loner. Quirks: talks to self. Quirks: writes lots of reminders to self. This might be a gameplay/story segregation element, but in LPs I saw him shove off a Clicker that grabbed him (it doesn’t always happen, but he can sometimes escape the grapple without help), so maybe high ST and suitable combat skills – though it could just be the equivalent of his kukri counting as a reusable shiv. SOP perk for being fairly well-prepared. Fast-Draw skill & probably Combat Reflexes (in fact, Combat Reflexes will probably be fairly common in this setting among hardened survivors). Armoury skill, probably some levels of Engineer or Machinist for stuff like the bombs he makes. Scrounging at high level. One thing I notice about Bill is he is not Batman-like in his preparedness, so it is probably best not to overdo that side of his character. He does mention neglecting the simple s- and is paying for it after an unexpected infected attack, so he does get caught by surprise sometimes. In a similar vein, not too much durability either. A teenage girl manages to hurt him enough to make him lose his gun (ok, it’s a swinging weapon, but it rules out a lot of defensive advantages). Maybe not too much Perception either, since he did not notice it in time. |
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I was hoping this project could capture more attention than it did, in order to have more help by experienced players. Still your contribution is very appreciated. If you ever think you'll have new advices, please fell free to email or PM me at lonetear77@gmail.com ! Thanks :)
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09-19-2013, 01:37 AM | #20 |
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Re: The Last of Us GURPS - The Infected
Hey, I hope the thread isn't dead. I've played gurps since the eighties and also am considering a Last of Us campaign. I found some great stuff here, will save me a little work, but to be honest, I really want some maps equal to the task.
I will probably have my players play Fireflies or some other faction that is tasked with exploring and mapping a area of a ruined city in preparation of their faction moveing to the area. Any ideas on where to find good city maps, ruins, anything like that? The terrain of the game really made a lot of the atmosphere. Thanks, great thread. Have you played any of your game yet? |
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