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Old 06-01-2013, 07:28 PM   #1
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Default Unkillable 3 vs. a Black Hole?

What the title says... what do you all think?

EDIT: Ok, so maybe a bit more than just the title is in order. Basically, the advantage says you become a disembodied spirit... so would a spirit be able to escape from a black hole? I realize there is no way to know the truth, but that's kinda why I'm asking what you all THINK...

I'm designing an alien species that is very, very rare and isn't able to self-replicate. The creation of more of them is banned because they have Unkillable 2, but I was kind of thinking... what if they had Unkillable 3? Would they then be truly unstoppable? Is Unkillable 3 just THAT good? There is absolutely positively no way to kill or contain unkillable 3?
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:31 PM   #2
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Uh...what? You are torn apart by tidal stresses, come back to life elsewhere. That's all there is to it.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:33 PM   #3
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Default Re: Unkillable 3 vs. a Black Hole?

So you don't think that the "there is no escape from a black hole" would apply to a disembodied spirit?
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:34 PM   #4
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Either you are caught in a cycle of revival and death within the black hole until it eventually destabilizes and explodes, or you die once and revive somewhere else.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:35 PM   #5
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Nope... Would end an Unkillable 2 character quite nicely though!
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:35 PM   #6
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So you don't think that the "there is no escape from a black hole" would apply to a disembodied spirit?
Escaping a black hole simply means one must exceed the speed of light. Since a spirit has zero mass, nothing in physics prevents it from doing exactly that.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:35 PM   #7
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Uh...what? You are torn apart by tidal stresses, come back to life elsewhere. That's all there is to it.
Pretty much unless the GM wishes to make a Black Hole or similar levels of destruction (heart of star perhaps) to require the cosmic enhancement on Unkillable 3.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:36 PM   #8
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So you don't think that the "there is no escape from a black hole" would apply to a disembodied spirit?
Are "disembodied spirits" subject to gravity?
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:38 PM   #9
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Before hitting the event horizon anything solid will be ionized And the UK3 kicks in. The possessor is then a ghost, energy pattern or some other sort of incorporeal spirit.

There might conceivably be some sort of combination of Power Source and "energy pattern" that was still vulnerable to ultra-strong gravity but generally I would say no, gravity doesn't bother you any more.

A GM have the character keep physically coalescing within range of the black hole's gravity but that's an .....aggressive use of his discretion and might lead to hard feelings. The GM certainly isn't under any obligation to make that happen. the character can materialize back in his own bedroom just as well.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:38 PM   #10
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By my reading of the rules, no. You can bind a spirit with magic but not gravity. You're giving me an idea for an anti-ward that works like a spirit roach motel, though.
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