Striking ST with Telekinetic Attack...

Crispythemighty · 06-12-2006, 02:23 PM

Is it possible...

I have a Telekinetic character, but wants an extra punch behind the attack with his Telekinetic striking... so he want Striking ST (One Attack Only, Telekinetic).

Is this valid? Striking ST is used to increase damage on natural attacks... I'm not sure if Striking ST could be used on telekinetic attacks.

Kuroshima · 06-12-2006, 02:34 PM

If he purchased his telekinetic attacks as alternate abilities to TK (probably with the ST based enhancement) they're gfree to purchase that Striking ST AND count it as part of the alternate ability.

If they just want to have more ST with their TK, they need to purchase more TK levels. One attack only might be allowable on those extra TK levels, but then you should really limit it to ONE attack type (either a punch using the TK, using a muscle powered weapon with TK,...)

vicky_molokh · 06-12-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crispythemighty

Is it possible...

I have a Telekinetic character, but wants an extra punch behind the attack with his Telekinetic striking... so he want Striking ST (One Attack Only, Telekinetic).

Is this valid? Striking ST is used to increase damage on natural attacks... I'm not sure if Striking ST could be used on telekinetic attacks.

Since SS only applies to 'muscular' ST, not 'brainy' (telekinetic) ST, I would say no. You could say that it applies to TK ST instead, but taking the 'One Attack' as a limitation is a cheat (and I can show why).

Anthony · 06-12-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crispythemighty

Is it possible...

I have a Telekinetic character, but wants an extra punch behind the attack with his Telekinetic striking... so he want Striking ST (One Attack Only, Telekinetic).

Is this valid?

Not by the rules. Of course, it's also absurdly expensive (as TK doesn't cost more than striking ST anyway). Better to buy innate attack (crushing) as an alternate power of TK.

sir_pudding · 06-12-2006, 02:56 PM

Are we talking about increasing ranged damage with TK or using TK to amplify melee damage?
In the first case just take an IA as an Alternate Ability of TK.
In the second case you could take a Power Modifer on Striking ST and make it an Alternate Ability of TK (which is pretty cool, IMO).

vicky_molokh · 06-12-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Are we talking about increasing ranged damage with TK or using TK to amplify melee damage?
In the first case just take an IA as an Alternate Ability of TK.
In the second case you could take a Power Modifer on Striking ST and make it an Alternate Ability of TK (which is pretty cool, IMO).

Which brings up the question: Why can't TK (with Reduced Time) be used to amplify muscular ST? It logically should be able to.

Anthony · 06-12-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Molokh

Which brings up the question: Why can't TK (with Reduced Time) be used to amplify muscular ST? It logically should be able to.

TK, alternate power (Striking ST+Load ST)

sir_pudding · 06-12-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

TK, alternate power (Striking ST+Load ST)

Or even just regular ST with the HP bought down and a Power Modifier as an Alternate Ability.

vicky_molokh · 06-12-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Or even just regular ST with the HP bought down and a Power Modifier as an Alternate Ability.

That's not exactly what I meant. Imagine a TKer with ST 10 and a truly instantaneous (no concentration required) Telekinesis 10. Now, she swings a sword with two hands on the hilt. Why can't she apply both her muscular ST and telekinetic 'ST' to her sword? Coordinating the two will certainly not be an issue. She also doesn't use any two powers simultaneously either. So what justifies the inflated CP cost?

Anthony · 06-12-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Molokh

That's not exactly what I meant. Imagine a TKer with ST 10 and a truly instantaneous (no concentration required) Telekinesis 10. Now, she swings a sword with two hands on the hilt. Why can't she apply both her muscular ST and telekinetic 'ST' to her sword? Coordinating the two will certainly not be an issue. She also doesn't use any two powers simultaneously either. So what justifies the inflated CP cost?

Coordinating the two is an issue. Other than that, the point costs for TK vs ST are broken, but that's a separate issue.

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06-12-2006, 02:56 PM	#5
sir_pudding Wielder of Smart Pants Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ventura CA	Re: Striking ST with Telekinetic Attack... Are we talking about increasing ranged damage with TK or using TK to amplify melee damage? In the first case just take an IA as an Alternate Ability of TK. In the second case you could take a Power Modifer on Striking ST and make it an Alternate Ability of TK (which is pretty cool, IMO).