04-04-2012, 11:38 PM | #141 |
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Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
I can, but I never claimed that double optional rule (which I don't think I ever actually used; at least not on any vehicle that actually saw play) makes GURPS unplayable.
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04-04-2012, 11:53 PM | #142 |
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Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
People upset by cube roots are going to be even more freaked out by raising to fractional powers.
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04-05-2012, 06:16 AM | #143 |
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I suspect that many of the complaints about math in GURPS are the in game math. The wounding modifier of 1.5 for pi+ and cut needing to be calculated for each attack that penetrates and armor dividers greater that 2 that need to be done to see how much damages penetrates are probable some of the main issues. Ranged attacks require a table lookup for distance and speed of target then you need to add accuracy, bracing, and turns of aiming. This after needing to calculate how many turns you need to ready and aim.
These things do not bother me as I feel it adds to the combat at a tactical sense. The math during the character development is insignificant in my mind as that is out of game play. It helps that I use the Character Assistant and don’t need to do much work at all other than pick stuff. Now picking stuff is a real chore as there is so much to pick from. :)
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04-05-2012, 10:07 AM | #144 | |
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04-05-2012, 05:42 PM | #145 |
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Re: Is a 5th Edition coming soon?
And usually cube roots come up, so it's not just Vehicles, it's a double double optional rule in Vehicles. Haters got to hate, as they say.
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04-05-2012, 06:37 PM | #146 | |
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I have checked out quite a few games and they all have tables and simple arithmetic. Numbers work best at defining limits. The main purpose of a character in any game is to define limits to what the player can do. All games have math in them. Well I have not checked out any of those diceless games. Personally, I do not have an issue with the math in the game. I am practicing combats during lunch in my office with a couple guys at work. One guy is not in an engineering job so math is not used a lot. I am sure he has to work with numbers as his job uses computers. He has commented about the math. Now I think this is partially my fault as I want to get a good feel for the RAW and am spending time getting in all the modifiers. Once I get more used to them I will be able to group them quicker and better to reduce some of the math exposed to the players. Basically I think the GM has a major impact on the perception of the game. I think the GM needs to know the comfort level of each player to math and plan accordingly.
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04-05-2012, 09:44 PM | #148 |
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Heck, it was original D&D that taught me how to calculate 10 percent of something, when I was in grade school.
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One is simple: you need to add up at least three numbers - the 3d6. For some, that's distinctly harder than two, and perceived pressure when everyone else is doing it instantly makes them react against the idea. The other is that there's the wounding modifier step that comes into even the simplest demo combat, unless the GM deals with it silently, and people teaching GURPS tend not to do that. That's extra steps, which creates a fear that there will be more and more of them, with harder arithmetic, as you learn more of the game. That isn't true, but it's a natural expectation from parallels with other games. |
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