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Old 04-18-2019, 01:02 PM   #11
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In Europe too, crossbows were considered unchivalrous and a threat to the social order.
Indeed, which is why all those unchivalrous, crossbow-wielding peasants with no sense of Honor were eventually banned from the battlefields, and Europe remained comfortably Feudal to this very day. ;)
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Old 04-18-2019, 01:04 PM   #12
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There's an element of medieval royalist wish-fulfillment, then, in Star Wars' trope of an order of swordsmen so awesome they can parry and block crossbow bolts. :)
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Old 04-18-2019, 01:06 PM   #13
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There was also some more immediate wish-fulfillment in the various cases where knights trampled their own crossbowmen...
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Old 04-18-2019, 01:07 PM   #14
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There's an element of medieval royalist wish-fulfillment, then, in Star Wars' trope of an order of swordsmen so awesome they can parry and block crossbow bolts. :)
Excellent point. But ironically, the Emperor (the highest royalty) is the one with the army of nondescript serfs.
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Old 04-18-2019, 01:33 PM   #15
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There's an element of medieval royalist wish-fulfillment, then, in Star Wars' trope of an order of swordsmen so awesome they can parry and block crossbow bolts. :)
And even then, they got their butts handed to them by artillery when they faced it in Attack of the Clones. Lightsabers don't deal well with "and the blast radius is . . . "
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Old 04-18-2019, 01:45 PM   #16
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So average UC V Kung Fool - ST 12 DX 14 IQ 14 walks up to

A starting Halfling ST 4 DX 15 IQ 11
4* very fine daggers(1d+1, +1 for expert)
Knife, Weapons Expertise-Dagger, etc

The Halfling throws a dagger at Kung Fool's head at adjDX 10 and on a hit will average 11 points of damage?
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Old 04-18-2019, 02:06 PM   #17
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Just like in real life.
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Old 04-18-2019, 02:10 PM   #18
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Just because unarmed combat is ridiculously difficult to learn to do at an expert level doesn't necessarily make it remotely useful against even the most basic technological weapons. Thats why martial arts expertise is a somewhat esoteric hobby but firearms are a billion dollar a year industry. They aren't balanced, even remotely, and there's no realistic reason to expect them to be.

Just like in real life, not every piece of knowledge or skill that you spend time and effort (XP, basically) to acquire will improve your combat effectiveness to the same degree. Unarmed combat stops being cost-effective somewhere around the level where you can trivially equip a squad with pointed sticks, let alone anything fancier.

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Old 04-18-2019, 02:14 PM   #19
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The Halfling throws a dagger at Kung Fool's head at adjDX 10 and on a hit will average 11 points of damage?
I got 5.5 average. Where's the doubling come from?
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I got 5.5 average. Where's the doubling come from?
ITL 120, bottom right corner.
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