Combat Showcase 2037

Daimyo_Shi · 10-25-2021, 03:47 PM

You know not all of the PDFs for Car Wars Publication are great but I have to go with Kudos to Steve Jackson Games for at least leaving the file editable so I change the rotation of the pages which is very handy.

Granted the Original books formatting has a purpose that I understand but would it have killed them to keep the Standard car part listing that is pretty standard in ADQ and the First AADA Guides

Racer · 10-25-2021, 06:31 PM

Combat Showcase was designed as 'pop open & play instantly' product : it had flaps on either ends of cover , which could be folded inwards to play using the presented vehicles . Best used with two copies CS'37 or photo copies of pages & flaps .
Nice idea but didn't really work . They used similar vehicle formats in Convoy & Mean Streets adventuring books IIRC . At least it gives players a generally standard way to layout vehicle internals . Before that in early 80's , you wouldn't believe mess some made of their car sheets !

The Errata for Combat Garage in ADQ 7/1 goes back to normal stats layouts for those that get completely replaced .

I've got whole exercise books/jotters full of revamped CS designs ... at least those that are worth using ... No Ram Subs or Ram Rev. Light Trkes in my redesigns , as they'd be wreaked after first impact on a heavier , solid ram target ...

Flechette Guns were in major prominence then to , before players realized how useless they could be . Light Machine Guns had then come along , and relegated FGs to Anti Ped vehicles only .

As bad as it is , you don't see any FGs in Vehicle Guild 3 . Pretty sure the single instance of them in the Military Vehicle Guide is a typo (one amongst many) .

Daimyo_Shi · 10-26-2021, 08:03 AM

As a side note anyone see where the Thunderkit for cycles was first published?

Magesmiley · 10-26-2021, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Daimyo_Shi

As a side note anyone see where the Thunderkit for cycles was first published?

Uncle Al's 2036 Catalog. (I can't believe I remembered that without looking it up).

Racer · 10-26-2021, 12:50 PM

Thunderkits were nice gadget - pity they were made illegal in 1989/2039 when new Rules on Top Speed calculations came in ... by combing the two approaches I design a Hvy Cycle with a 300mph Top Speed ...

As a legacy , I named one of the more powerful Cycle/Trike PPs as 'Thunderkit PP' with 2,000 Power Factors . Next step up from the 1,400 PF HD Trike PP I also designed .

Still a +50mph boost to Top Speed was extremely handy in mid 80's .

43Supporter · 10-26-2021, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

Thunderkits were nice gadget - pity they were made illegal in 1989/2039 when new Rules on Top Speed calculations came in ...

Somewhere in my notes is the rewrite I did for Thunderkits -- in the same way the original writeup of what is now the "Sport" PP was the "Large Sport" PP, "Thunderkit" became a "booster pack" for Cycle PPs (in the process, fixing the problem created when Trikes were permitted chassis upgrades, and X-H Trikes now had more available weight than any Cycle Plant with upgrades could move).

FGs: I also need to find my "riot control" APC from _CW Tanks_, which never got published -- it had a brace of FGs.

swordtart · 10-27-2021, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 43Supporter

FGs: I also need to find my "riot control" APC from _CW Tanks_, which never got published -- it had a brace of FGs.

Why?

:)

43Supporter · 10-27-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by swordtart

Why?

:)

Why do I need to find it again? Or Why was it never published? Or Why did it have a brace of FGs?

Daimyo_Shi · 10-28-2021, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 43Supporter

Somewhere in my notes is the rewrite I did for Thunderkits -- in the same way the original writeup of what is now the "Sport" PP was the "Large Sport" PP, "Thunderkit" became a "booster pack" for Cycle PPs (in the process, fixing the problem created when Trikes were permitted chassis upgrades, and X-H Trikes now had more available weight than any Cycle Plant with upgrades could move).

FGs: I also need to find my "riot control" APC from _CW Tanks_, which never got published -- it had a brace of FGs.

When you say Brace what do you mean? I use to the term being paired pistols [Likely coming from the term Case for two swords [Often Rapiers]

43Supporter · 10-28-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daimyo_Shi

When you say Brace what do you mean? I use to the term being paired pistols [Likely coming from the term Case for two swords [Often Rapiers]

That's what I mean -- "a grouping of". IIRC: It was a Light APC with at least one FG out each of the main facings, plus a 2-sp. turret with AP-loaded MGs.

10-25-2021, 03:47 PM	#1
Daimyo_Shi Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Calgary, Alberta	Combat Showcase 2037 You know not all of the PDFs for Car Wars Publication are great but I have to go with Kudos to Steve Jackson Games for at least leaving the file editable so I change the rotation of the pages which is very handy. Granted the Original books formatting has a purpose that I understand but would it have killed them to keep the Standard car part listing that is pretty standard in ADQ and the First AADA Guides __________________ CADA - Calgary "If designing a Monte Carlo clone and putting a Thundercat power plant is wrong I don't want to be Right!" Last edited by Daimyo_Shi; 10-25-2021 at 03:50 PM.

10-25-2021, 06:31 PM	#2
Racer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK	Re: Combat Showcase 2037 Combat Showcase was designed as 'pop open & play instantly' product : it had flaps on either ends of cover , which could be folded inwards to play using the presented vehicles . Best used with two copies CS'37 or photo copies of pages & flaps . Nice idea but didn't really work . They used similar vehicle formats in Convoy & Mean Streets adventuring books IIRC . At least it gives players a generally standard way to layout vehicle internals . Before that in early 80's , you wouldn't believe mess some made of their car sheets ! The Errata for Combat Garage in ADQ 7/1 goes back to normal stats layouts for those that get completely replaced . I've got whole exercise books/jotters full of revamped CS designs ... at least those that are worth using ... No Ram Subs or Ram Rev. Light Trkes in my redesigns , as they'd be wreaked after first impact on a heavier , solid ram target ... Flechette Guns were in major prominence then to , before players realized how useless they could be . Light Machine Guns had then come along , and relegated FGs to Anti Ped vehicles only . As bad as it is , you don't see any FGs in Vehicle Guild 3 . Pretty sure the single instance of them in the Military Vehicle Guide is a typo (one amongst many) . __________________ Five Gauss Guns on a Camper !!! The Resident Brit . Last edited by Racer; 10-25-2021 at 06:43 PM.

10-26-2021, 08:03 AM	#3
Daimyo_Shi Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Calgary, Alberta	Re: Combat Showcase 2037 As a side note anyone see where the Thunderkit for cycles was first published? __________________ CADA - Calgary "If designing a Monte Carlo clone and putting a Thundercat power plant is wrong I don't want to be Right!"

10-26-2021, 12:50 PM	#5
Racer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK	Re: Combat Showcase 2037 Thunderkits were nice gadget - pity they were made illegal in 1989/2039 when new Rules on Top Speed calculations came in ... by combing the two approaches I design a Hvy Cycle with a 300mph Top Speed ... As a legacy , I named one of the more powerful Cycle/Trike PPs as 'Thunderkit PP' with 2,000 Power Factors . Next step up from the 1,400 PF HD Trike PP I also designed . Still a +50mph boost to Top Speed was extremely handy in mid 80's . __________________ Five Gauss Guns on a Camper !!! The Resident Brit .

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