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02-27-2018, 08:29 AM | #1 |
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Mounted Infantry in Overrun
Can someone help me with this, please?
OK, infantry can mount a transport, using all of its movement, correct? And it can dismount at any time without spending any movement at all correct? So, given this, why would you ever leave infantry units mounted? Likewise, what is the effective difference between carrying infantry units internally and externally? |
02-27-2018, 09:18 AM | #2 | |||
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Since you are asking about Overruns, 8.06.1 matters. This is the only case where an INF that mounted can also dismount during the same turn. The main reason you would leave INF mounted is to gain a speed advantage over time. It's rare that it happens in practice, especially during an overrun. Staying mounted during an overrun is suicide. As for internal vs external, INF that are internal can't fire; they are sitting ducks. The only time that INF being internal is a good idea is using trucks on roads to move faster (M4 vs M3). It's unlikely the extra 1 hex will be enough of an advantage compared to having better defense options, though.
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02-27-2018, 10:16 AM | #3 | |
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Re: Mounted Infantry in Overrun
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Question about 8.06.1...there's a little ambiguity there. 8.06.1: Infantry riding on vehicles may dismount at the beginning of the overrun. They cannot remount after the combat. [...] Is that the same as "Infantry may not remount as part of ending the overrun", or "Infantry may not remount in the same turn as an overrun they dismount in", or a different context entirely?
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02-27-2018, 10:55 AM | #4 |
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Re: Mounted Infantry in Overrun
OK, that makes sense, GP but what about internally carried infantry? Can they dismount in an overrun?
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02-27-2018, 11:30 AM | #5 |
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Re: Mounted Infantry in Overrun
No. Per 8.06.1: Infantry within vehicles (Trucks, Hovertrucks) do not dismount, cannot fight in the overrun, and are subject to 5.11.2.
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02-27-2018, 11:27 AM | #6 | |
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In practice, it's almost never a good idea to stay mounted. The odds of the vehicle surviving for them to keep riding it after the overrun are extremely low.
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02-27-2018, 01:50 PM | #7 | |
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It creates the opportunity for an interesting edge case...the rules don't explicitly address "Mount, ridden vehicle enters overrun, dismount to participate in overrun", and I see that leading to disagreements over which section has primacy. My gut says 5.11.3 has primacy because 8.06.1 says 'May', but I could see how someone could argue that 8.06.1 has primacy because it doesn't say 'if able'.
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02-27-2018, 03:38 PM | #8 | |
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