01-13-2017, 08:12 PM | #1 |
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Cyberworld Revised
So Cyberworld was one of my favorite cyberpunk settings since it actually provided name brands/life in the One and Twenty. Written in 1993 about the world in 2043 it has some glaring problems.
1. The US has been under an corporatist Provisional Government (ProGov) since 2021 and suspended elections since then. Senators are elected by states and there is a class system based on race/wealth. Mexico and Cuba have been added to the US and the US is fighting a guerrilla war in Cuba and Bolivia. A secret police force (NERCC) helps enforce the law. 2. Canada broke up by 2010 into a Columbia-Alberta alliance, the Central Provinces and a Atlantic Community led by Quebec. 3. Argentina and Chile merged into a business friendly state called Chiletina. 4. Brazil receives money from the world to keep the Amazon nice. Everyone pays or faces a total economic embargo. 5. Europe is united and peaceful 6. The Commonwealth of Independent States signed a series of economic agreements with Japan with Japanese corporations gaining access to Russian raw materials and markets. Now six of the ten biggest corporations are Russo-Japanese and they have a space station. 7. China has sealed itself from the world after a devastating disease and civil war. 8. All of Central Asia is under the Central Asian Federation which like the old USSR sponsors lots of terrorists. 9. Israel defeated a combined Arab invasion in 2021 and occupied Jordan, Lebanon, Syria the western half of Iraq and threatened everyone (Saudi Arabia, Iran) else with nukes if they joined in. 10. South Africa fell apart in civil war in 2004 causing a worldwide economic collapse called the Grand Slam. Some countries in Africa have merged despite economic collapse, environmental damage and a devastating plague. Why we don't know. 11. Australia has been depopulated by a unknown disease and no cure has been found. REVISED So obviously things have changed between 1993 and 2017 and like several Cyberpunk/near future settings it has become dated. So here are my ideas. Some are a collection of my ideas and a mash of Cyberworld, Cosmic Era https://strolen.com/viewing/The_Cosmic_Era, Transhuman Space and other ideas 1. World temperatures have risen 10 degrees and sea level by 12 feet. World population in 2043 Cyberworld is 6.4 billion. So by 2067 population may have gone up. 2. The US has changed due to disease, technological and social shifts and environmental damage. We still have elections but the major factions are the Technocrats/Corporates and Deep State National Security apparatus (we want to keep the lights on, people fed and housed and make money) and the People's Power (Environmentalists, Bio-punks, Anarchists, Cyberdemocrats) who want local autonomy. Cities in the center of the country have been more important since New Orleans and the East Coast have to deal with rising seas. 3. With the rise of 3-D printing, automating and limited AI/nanotech the manufacturing industry has reduced the number of people employed. Many people are employed in the service/knowledge industry now. Many countries have created a Universal Basic Income instead of Unemployment benefits. 4. Mexico did not do well in the transition but has recovered somewhat thanks to Renewable Energy/Biotech/Entertainment industries. Canada gained new farmland and shipping channel with the Climate Shift and so is united and wealthy. 5. Cuba followed Mexico's example but with a more extensive social welfare state. 6. South America used its raw material and biological wealth to gain a modest increase of wealth. Many new drugs and biotech designs now come from Brazil and Argentina. 7. East Africa is united and western Africa has a common market. Nigeria took the loss of oil revenue hard. Environmental damage and ethnic/religious conflict affect most of Central Africa. 8. Europe has reformed under a more Federal Europe to present a united front against Russia. Still spends a lot of time fighting themselves. Britain is out of the European system and trading with North America more. 9. Russia is authoritarian but not the levels of Putin era. They have the same problems as the US but more concerned about China and Central Asia. Russia used its knowledge of space travel and research to help mankind go back into space. 10. Central Asia is united under a form of Islamic Democracy. They have received investment from India and China and use them both to keep independent. Still don't trust the Russians. 11. Japan, Russian, Korea, Philippines, southeast Asia and Australia form a Pacific Rim Coalition against Chinese military and economic bullying. Like Europe they spend a lot of time arguing with each other. Malaysia and Indonesia are sites of major spaceports. 12. China is democratic (somewhat). Parties can compete as long as they don't violate Social Harmony. Heavy monitoring of public spaces and the Internet by State Security. China presents a strong face to the world and is aggressive in space development. 13. India remains chaotic mix of religions, ethnicities, languages and economics. Glittering modern cities next to vast slums. Leaders in AI, information technologies, entertainment and bio-tech (lots of test subjects). Border clashes with China and influence games in Nepal, Southeast Asia and Central Asia. 14. Iran is the top power in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia crashed and burned when the oil revenues started to fail. Iraq, Syria, Lebanon are a patchwork between Israeli, Turkish, Russian and Iranian supported states. Israel adopted a two state solution reluctantly due to demographics. 15. US, Russia, China, India have bases on the Moon and stations in orbit. Fusion is growing in use along with alternative energies. US/India/Brazil have cooperated on a Mars mission which landed in 2050 and Russia/Japan/Indonesia landed in 2052. Corporate mining vessels and stations are in the Asteroid Belt. Near space littered with stations both private and national. No O'Neill large stations yet. 16. In many developing countries the corporations have security forces and major influence. While the developed world would not permit this openly the developing world has little choice. |
01-13-2017, 10:29 PM | #2 |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
Apart from #2 and #10 in the top list, which are now in our past, I'm not sure why any of the others appear dated to you.
#1, if anything, appears more likely than before, and #6, with recent meetings between Putin and Abe, could actually happen. #7 and #11, relying on unknown epidemics, are just as likely or unlikely to happen as they were in 1993.
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01-13-2017, 10:47 PM | #3 |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
I'd very much like to see a 4th Edition Cyberworld, but I know that's just pipe-dreaming.
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01-13-2017, 11:05 PM | #4 |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
Not sure what you're aiming for or what you'd like the community to provide; can you clarify what you'd like to see?
I use Cyberworld as satire, which is all I've ever been able to take it as. It isn't even governed by Rule of Cool, but by "whatever would make a small town conservative American soil his pants". Scared of the big bad evil Russkies so hard it's warped the entire culture for a couple of generations? Scared of those fiendish Japs and their too-clever technology and hard work taking good Murican jobs? Here, have a Russian-Japanese Alliance for maximum boogeyman factor! Have no idea what to make of China because nobody in the USA, especially in 1993 knows a bloody thing about China? Bamboo Curtain, all isolated and mysterious and stuff so you can pretend they don't exist! Australia always makes a convenient victim because Muricans think of them as Muricans who happen to have gotten lost (which also means their continued existence as an independent nation can't advance the Murican narrative). Creepy police powers and all these Mexicans within the USA. Make President Hammond gay and the horror would be complete. It's an attempt at a terrible dystopia that turns out just plain ridiculous. |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
My thoughts: Cyberworld is not meant to be a realistic world; many features exist to guide adventuring possibilities rather than realism. It also has some zeitgeist. But there is also attempts to justify decisions too.
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Well, first things first: United Europe isn't like our European Union; it solved its internal problems and centralized, instead of expanding eastward. Also, a nationalist faction headed by Germany and Italy [again] are opposed by moderates [Iberia, Scandanavia, England]. On one hand it is peaceful and united, but it isn't a circle of politicians dancing around and singing "Kumbaya". The reasons behind it: NATO needs to go in Cyberworld; without getting rid of NATO, the US keeps its bases around the world and becomes more dangerous. If NATO is gone, then somebody needs to prevent Western Europe from being Finlandized by Russia. The answer? United Europe. Also, it let's players play in a pre-ProGov America without having to move the date back and fight Nazis! Quote:
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I believe this is intended for three reasons: one, to prevent this setting from being too much like Autoduel because Australia's isolation could make it a great power, two, to leave it an open question for GMs to insert something interesting into [The whole unknown disease thing is left very ambiguous], and three, because you can't do Mad Max without wrecking Australia first. |
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01-14-2017, 08:47 PM | #6 |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
I'm a big fan of the Cyberworld setting & would love to see an update. I was also a huge fan of the Cthulu-punk world because it was set in the Cyberworld setting.
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01-15-2017, 06:36 AM | #7 |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
And I also like Cyberworld, but always thought it's version of Australia was really really lazy. :-)
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01-15-2017, 11:03 AM | #8 |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
I think if I were going to revise Cyberworld, it would be in parallel with a revision of Transhuman Space, fitting them into the same timeline.
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01-15-2017, 04:16 PM | #9 | |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
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I see cyberpunk and fundamentally about the anxieties of late 1970s and the 1980s...bleeding into the early 1990s. It doesn't make sense to update it to make it today...because it isn't about today at all. It is about 1984. It is one of the reasons why transhuman stories overtook cyberpunk stories...because it isn't the 1980s anymore. A person can still play cyberpunk, of course. Nostalgia always sells. But I think it is best to think of cyberworld as an alternate universe that diverges from our own in 1993 and leave it at that. |
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01-15-2017, 08:57 PM | #10 |
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Re: Cyberworld Revised
If I were to work with updating any kind of "cybernetics based" game world where technology advances quickly, and society struggles to stay sane throughout it all, I'd start with the following basic background:
1) automation of any kind, whether by means of simple kiosk like interfaces, or actual machines or vehicles - results in the dangerous weakening of the economic forces that used to exist prior. In my campaign worlds, industries that remove a human from the equation via automation of any kind, are taxed for the support required to pay welfare benefits for the unemployed. This mind set was adopted in the European Union first, and subsequently adopted by other first world nations struggling to pay the costs of social programs and/or safety net programs. 2) the law almost always lags behind technology. As a consequence, things will get NASTY for a while until someone tries to fix the issue. For example, there is supposedly a new process involving the use of living skin cells for in-vitro fertilization techniques being developed. (In theory that is, like anything else, one has to wait for the future to see if it works!). Imagine a rock star being sued for paternity payments on a child that was brought into existence via IVF using living skin. What will the courts say the first few times it happens, and what changes to the laws will there be after wards? 3) In the past, the rich used their wealth to get poorer people to do as they desired. In a world with automation, robotic factories etc - might not the rich be more inclined to finding ways to depopulate the region rather than finding ways to enrich the lives of the poor? Plagues that induce sterility or kill outright, could be let loose in a biopunk sort of fashion. With automation and robotics - there will no longer be a need for the poor's service. 4) Social/political divides: We're living in a time period in which politics has caused some major polarization. Institutional trust has eroded severely to the extent that some societies may be on the edge of rebellion. How long would society last if they lost trust in the police force, or the newspapers telling the truth instead of engaging in yellow journalism, or the vote being rigged, etc? Might not social unrest include an increase in lawlessness? 5) that which can't go on, won't. As social programs make it easier to remain unemployed, social programs and safety net programs will become increasingly more costly. Taxes continuing to rise may have a double effect of causing the population to self-select for lower replacement rates (ie, the heavier the tax burden, the less children are produced by the taxed). This in turn, gives rise to a cycle where the taxes never drop, but the population paying the tax dwindles. Somewhere along the way, there will be a point of no return where either the taxation has to be relaxed, or the people revolt against the taxation being ruinous. 6) Environmental factors: Some might say that pollution is our worst problem. Energy pollution in the form of excess heat (why do you think birds sit on telephone wires in the winter - transmission of electricity across lines results in waste heat). Urban areas with excessive energy use might also have "islands" effects where the areas have high heat, but other areas lack it. 7) Weather: Some are saying that we're heading for a new mini-ice age due to the lack of sun spots (as in ZERO sun spots recently), and others are claiming Global warming. Some point out the fossil records of petrified wood indicating that the American South West proves periodic warming and cooling periods, while others say "It is out of control, the world is doomed!". Then there are those astrophysicists who point out that our sun is currently 20% brighter (and consequently warmer) than when it first came into being. The progression of the sun's lifespan will ultimately make the Earth uninhabitable due to excessive heat production from the sun. The fact that our Sun is a variable star seems to be lost on some. But either way you slice it or dice it, climatic change has the potential to seriously impact on food production, raise the ocean levels (or in a Mini-Ice Age scenario, lock up more water in ice) Then we have the "never forgets" syndrome of modern society today. Storage of video or file medium has grown progressively cheaper. As a consequence, things you say today, may come back to haunt your buttocks some 20 years later as if you had just said them then and there. This is going to have some major effects on people as they self-censor their words, and attempt to run silent as to their real thoughts in an effort to avoid persecution later on. Let's face it. When children were taught about their founding fathers in the United States back in the 1960's - they were taught that the founding fathers attempted to create a document (the declaration of independence as well as the United States Constitution) that was politically viable. The pros of what were accomplished were given a higher level of attention than were the issues that were divisive. People forget that the historical people of the past were no different than the people of today in the sense that they were a product of their times, trying to do the best they could with what they had. The lesser populated colonies feared the tyranny of the higher population colonies - and enacted the Electoral college to avoid the issue that was perceived. Slavery, some hated it even then, and some wanted to abolish it on the premise that all were created equal - yet some, having paid money for their slaves, were determined not to have their investments STOLEN from them. It was NOT a perfect time, and political compromises were as unsastisfactory then, as they are today. Today's children seem to learn nothing more than "They were slave owners" and are shown only the dirt, or the imperfections. In any event, society evolves with the times, certain cultural bedrock principles determine how people will react to what is right and what is wrong. Legal codes evolve on the basis of precedent - how judges adjudicated cases in the past and try to retain a level of consistency. For me, the Cyberpunk "updates" simply need to examine the general basis for any story telling: What are the conflicts? Man versus Man Man versus self Man versus Nature and so on and so forth I never really liked TRANSHUMAN SPACE, and I never really liked over the top CP2020 all TOO much either. A much more muted version of CP2020 is my comfort zone. So, what would YOUR updated Cyberpunk or Cyberworld look like? :) |
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