07-27-2019, 05:54 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
Pretty simple question. Either automatically or with some enhancement, if you have Telescopic Vision at a higher level than your gun's Acc, can you use the new Acc for the purposes of Gunslinger?
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07-27-2019, 06:50 AM | #2 | |
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
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However... that said... I'd allow an Acc from Telescopic Vision to replace the Acc of a weapon, but it would be a 0 point feature of Telescopic Vision when purchased and not be switchable. However, since you have to Aim to get a scope's bonus, I'm not sure in what manner this would be useful to a Gunslinger... |
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07-27-2019, 02:44 PM | #3 |
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
+50% version of Cosmic on Telescopic Vision would let you do so.
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07-27-2019, 03:57 PM | #4 |
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
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07-29-2019, 01:40 PM | #5 |
Join Date: Sep 2018
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
I've allowed it in templates for trick-shooters and targeteers but I only give one level. It creates a nice bonus that's more substantial than just a high skill.
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07-29-2019, 06:11 PM | #6 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
Note that it shouldn't be more than +20%, as for 6 points you can just take Telescopic Vision (No Targeting) [2] and +1 to Guns/Pistol [4].
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07-29-2019, 08:38 PM | #7 |
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
Untrue, as your pricing only benefits Guns (Pistol) whereas Telescopic Vision (Cosmic, Targeting Benefits Without Aiming, +50%) [7.5/lvl] applies to every ranged weapon you pick up.
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07-29-2019, 09:12 PM | #8 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
The context here was gunslinger, which only applies to pistols. I would not generally permit a build like that, just buy up weapon skill.
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07-29-2019, 09:25 PM | #9 |
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
Well, that's not quite true. The full Acc bonus applies to all single shots from one-handed weapons. That's four skills I can think of: Guns (Pistol), Beam Weapons (Pistol), and some applications of Guns (SMG) and Guns (Shotguns). And two-handed weapons or automatic fire still get partial benefit from Gunslinger anyway.
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07-29-2019, 09:38 PM | #10 | |
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Re: Can you use Telescopic Vision with Gunslinger?
That is absolutely false. Gunslinger applies to: Beam Weapons, Gunner, Guns, or Liquid Projector skill.
With just Guns alone you have Pistols, Gyrocs, Muskets, Rifles, Shotguns, and SMG specialities. And as awesomenessofme1 notes: Quote:
And all the other benefits from GunFu, which if allowed mean even better advantages for using two-handed firearms (ignoring Bulk in CC and on Move and Attack maneuvers). |
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