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Old 09-16-2013, 03:48 PM   #111
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British ships do as well, and some of them are also starting to do challenge coins these days too.
I wonder how much it would cost to make up a run of medallions for people who have played in my FLAT BLACK campaigns.
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:48 PM   #112
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Good, because I've decided that the eagle was a Mayflowerite symbol inherited from Mayflower's American antecedents. This made it politically unacceptable to the early Senate as a symbol of the Empire; they were trying to deprecate the identity of the Empire with the Eichbergerists and Mayflowerites. So they adopted the "Imperial Crown and attributes of Jupiter Capitolinus" instead, reviving the parliamentary portcullis for themselves. The crown is an official symbol of the sovereignty and prerogative of the Empire, adopted by the Senate when it imagined that it would be exercising that sovereignty. It appears on things, but the mink aren't as fond of it as of the oak and thunderbolt.
This is both totally plausible and completely cool!
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:48 PM   #113
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I wonder how much it would cost to make up a run of medallions for people who have played in my FLAT BLACK campaigns.
It looks as though $700 would set me up with all the die-cast zinc-alloy medallions I could ever use. Getting the Royal Australian Mint to strike medallions the quality of coins would be more expensive, perhaps enough so that the price of real bronze or even sterling silver would make only a small difference.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:05 AM   #114
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It looks as though $700 would set me up with all the die-cast zinc-alloy medallions I could ever use. Getting the Royal Australian Mint to strike medallions the quality of coins would be more expensive, perhaps enough so that the price of real bronze or even sterling silver would make only a small difference.
That seems a bit steep, you can normally get a hundred coins from $300 to $400.
http://www.customcoinsyourway.com/custom-coin-pricing/
http://www.allaboutchallengecoins.com/pricing.html
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:46 AM   #115
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That seems a bit steep, you can normally get a hundred coins from $300 to $400.
http://www.customcoinsyourway.com/custom-coin-pricing/
http://www.allaboutchallengecoins.com/pricing.html
Yes, but I would need more than a hundred, since quite a lot of people have played in my FLAT BLACK games. One of my con games had fifty players in a weekend, another had thirty-odd.
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Old 09-17-2013, 02:04 AM   #116
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Yes, but apart from musing that classical English (as contrasted with Standard) might be used for them the way Latin used to be until late last century I haven't come up with much.
This, of course, will make it more difficult to use web translation tools. Hm. I think I'll play a bit with the designs you outlined, and come back to this point later.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:06 AM   #117
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I have been trying to get Google Translate to turn "we guard everyone always against massacre" into Latin, but I think it's giving me the wrong noun for "massacre". I think it ought to be strages, trucidatio, occisio, obcisio, occidio, obcidio, internecio, or internicio; Google Translate is giving me:
Omnes semper custodiat nos caede
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Um. Custodimus semper omnes contra internecioni?
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:38 AM   #118
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Alas, I can't help you with Latin grammar, never having learned Latin. However, I can throw unfiltered thoughts at you.

A possible workaround comes to mind: you could settle for a grammatically less complex, more poetic motto, which still catches the same meaning :) Something like "From Death we guard", or "Always we serve", or "In our hands" (...the fate of humanity rests), or "Duty from Conscience". Something like that.

I think if a basically ideologically motivated group were to pick a motto, they'd go for something catchy, impressive-sounding; rather than a precise description of what they want or do.

Fluctuat nec mergitur sounds better than Even though things might be difficult at times, we're still determined to carry on.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:09 AM   #119
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Custodimus semper omnes contra internecioni is a bit of a mission statement, of which the worst part is "internecioni". I hope the correct grammar and semantics provide a more elegant word, such as stragi. But anyway, the advantage of first setting out precisely what you want to say is that you can then suggest the whole with selected parts while playing tricks with emphasis.
Semper custodimus "We always guard"

Custodimus omnes "We guard everyone"

Custodimus contra stragibus "We guard against massacres"

Semper contra stragi "Ever against massacre"

Semper, omnes "Always, everyone"
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:16 AM   #120
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As a rule for mottoes, the shorter and pithier the better. I'd say any of the two-word ones feels best.

Then again, once of these days I will use nonne numquam hic eramus ("We were never here, all right?").
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