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As for the other traits, some could be learned while others would be inborn. If "light walk" is something that all Elves do from birth it should be part of the template. If it's a skill they learn later, then it could be included (presuming some minimum training) or left out of the template to be bought when learned. Quote:
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I stopped at 2 because that's enough to get the feel and not enough to blow up the point total, not because it reflects what Legolas' Elf Eyes saw. I could easily justify +5, but then we move toward the 300 point elf template. On the other hand, Legolas was exceptional and well known to Aragorn. maybe he had better than average vision even for an elf. |
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Legolas was Sindar nobility. He's the son of Thranduil, King of the Elves of North Mirkwood. Most of the elves who Tolkein portrays in any detail are nobility, and they seem to be significantly more capable than the average elf.
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According to JRRT, a Ring of Power has very little power over a Dwarf. It can inflame the already-present tendency toward obsessive behavior and greed, but it doesn't make them invisible and it won't make a Dwarf live any longer or shorter (at least not directly, it might get him murdered, like Thror and Thrain). So a Dwarf with the One Ring would not become a wraith, nor would he become like Gollum. He would (barring violence or accident), die at his natural time. Hobbits, though, _are_ affected by the Great Rings just as other Men are, the difference is one of degree. Hobbits tend to be resistant of domination, but they aren't immune to it like Dwarves. Sméagol hardly ever wore the Ring after he went underground, which is part of why he ended up as what he was rather than a wraith. Hobbits most certainly do stop aging if they hold a Great Ring, as we saw with Sméagol, Bilbo, and Frodo, and obviously a Ring can make a Hobbit invisible.
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It's sometimes hard to pin down exactly what that means, it's not precisely the same as free will, which the other races do have. It's more a matter that Men can't be locked into a single outcome ahead of time (except by God) in the way the other races can be and sometimes are. But that can be hard to express in a gaming situation. As for Elvish point totals...yeah, it's inherent to the world. Elves are immortal, and the Creator granted them great gifts of mind and body, that's canonical. They are inherently high point characters, with immortality, immunity to disease, high fatigue and HT and ST and so forth. That's all Elves. The Sindar and even more so the Noldor are far worse. The Sindar lived in Doriath and were ruled by and taught by Queen Melian, an angel. The Noldor lived in Valinor and were instructed by and nurtured by archangels. They have knowledge and power and gifts that are simply out of the scale of the other races, that's canonically acknowledged. I'm not sure there's any 'balanced' way around that while staying true to the setting. Most of the 'downsides' of being an Elf, though some of them are significant, don't translate into negative points very well, because they tend to play out over centuries. It's so much a part of the setting, in fact, that it's a key element to the backstory of The Lord of the Rings. The Noldor of Eregion longed for the timeless peace of Valinor, but in Valinor they are immediately subject to the angels and archangels and higher ranking Elves like the Vanyar. In Middle-earth, they are the top dogs, the highest and most gifted and able people, and they liked it. That was the personality conflict that made them vulnerable to Sauron's temptations, and led to the creation of the Great Rings.
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