Leather Armor from Tough Creatures

[gilbertocarlos]

Heavy leather is not concealable or flexible. So, plate over dino leather is impossible.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by PseudoFenton

"Yes this dinoskin armour probably should be DR 8, but that would undermine the benefits of plate, and I still want there to be blacksmiths and not just leather workers." etcetera.)

Side note: DR 8, but weighs what? DR 8, but applies what DX penalty? If it's DR 8 because it's ankylosaurus hide and (say) an inch thick with lumpy bony bits, it's going to weigh a LOT, restrict movement, and need large gaps around the joins. Plate's just better for all those qualities, but probably cheaper (depending on how common ankylosauruses are in your game, and if they're a protected species ;) ).

Thick = heavy as well as thick = tough. Weight matters.

[Dalillama]

It appears that the hide of elephants and rhinos has commonly been used to make shields in areas where those critters are present, but not armor as far as I can determine.

[DanHoward]

The Chinese hunted the Asian Rhinoceros to extinction because of its hide's suitability for leather armour. The new Loadouts book talks about rhinoceros hide armour (p. 15).
http://www.warehouse23.com/products/...low-tech-armor

[CraigM]

IIRC, Hippopotamus hide is typically several inches thick. Despite appearances, Hippos actually carry very little fat; they're basically a thick hide and a lot of muscle wrapped around a robust skeleton and a gigantic stomach.

Unless you use the thin (and therfore low DR) bits of hide from around the joints, or scrape and stretch the hide down to reasonable thickness (again, low DR) it's going to be about as flexible as a thick block of wood.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by gilbertocarlos

Heavy leather is not concealable or flexible. So, plate over dino leather is impossible.

The Basic Set rules aren't very sensible, and prevent all sorts of layering that was actually used.

[DanHoward]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

The Basic Set rules aren't very sensible, and prevent all sorts of layering that was actually used.

Low-Tech would not allow this combination either. The leather is way too thick to be flexible.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by DanHoward

Low-Tech would not allow this combination either. The leather is way too thick to be flexible.

Sure. Heavy leather isn't flexible. I'm just saying that the "Concealable" stat is nigh useless.

[Humabout]

I have nothing useful to contribute, so I just thought I'd toss out something I found googling "brontosaurus" that caused a flood of childhood flashbacks:

http://polyesterdreams.com/images/dino.jpg

Also . . .

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ot2E-EUZnn...ontosaurus.gif

[scc]

So people reckon I should use the Leather of Quality rules from Low Tech, page 105 for 'leather' armor made from creatures with DR?

If such creatures are the norm (IE: Lands Out of Time) would a reduction in the CF of such armor be in order?