11-15-2018, 04:36 PM | #31 | |
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Re: How does 5e D&D compare to the others?
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In the long run that's not a big issue. But it ignores the real benefit of a Dex-Fighter. Bonus action attacks with the off-hand weapon. Which evens up the damage potential, and, potentially exceeds it. (d8+d6+DexMod is nominally better than d12+StrMod, if your attack bonus is higher than their AC bonuses). The Barbarian, in addition to d12 hit die, the AC bonus from Con, and the rage, also can exceed 20 attribute for Str & Con. In my experience, despite the math implying otherwise,
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11-15-2018, 04:42 PM | #32 | |
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Few cleric players I've met would go along with that, either, not even in "Pick at casting time" 5E. |
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11-15-2018, 05:00 PM | #33 |
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Re: How does 5e D&D compare to the others?
Unfortunately, you get only one bonus action (and you have to be using a Light primary weapon). At first level, dual scimitars is 1d6+stat/1d6, which is a match for a greatsword at 2d6+stat, but once you hit two attacks at level 5-6, dual scimitars is 3d6+2xstat, greatsword is 4d6+2xstat.
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11-15-2018, 05:03 PM | #34 |
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Re: How does 5e D&D compare to the others?
It's better to hole up for a full day than rely on natural healing rates. Why wouldn't a cleric go along with "today, no-one is doing anything and the healbot is healing people"? It only takes a few minutes to RP out, even if it takes a game day.
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11-15-2018, 06:21 PM | #35 | |
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Then at 3rd level is you take Path of the Berserker you can do Frenzy once per day and get an extra attack before anyone else.
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11-15-2018, 06:59 PM | #36 | |
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Fighter and Ranger both have access to both great weapon and dual weapon. Paladin has access to great weapon. Thus, we can look at how they compare: Dual Weapon (Scimitars): Dex 20, 2+1 attacks, Attack +8/1d+5. Average per hit is 8.5, 12 on crit. Great Weapon (Greatsword): Str 20, 2 attacks, Attack +8/2d6+5 (reroll 1s and 2s). Average per hit is 13.33 (+57%), 21.67 (+81%) on crit. Since both crit and non-crit are more than 50% higher, 2 greatsword attacks beats 3 scimitar attacks, and if opportunity attacks come in to play, 3 greatsword attacks certainly beats 4 scimitar attacks. +1 weapons brings non-crit damage roughly into parity. Once we toss in class features, for fighters a battlemaster uses bonus actions for other purposes, a champion crits more often, so both favor using a single weapon. Ranger is a bit trickier, because hunter's mark is a d6 per attack, but it also consumes bonus actions. Colossus slayer is marginally better with more attacks because it's more likely to trigger, giant killer and horde breaker are both bonus weapon attacks and thus benefit from a large weapon. |
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11-15-2018, 11:34 PM | #37 | |
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Even holing up, by the rules of AD&D, you STILL roll for random encounters. |
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08-02-2021, 06:11 AM | #38 |
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Re: How does 5e D&D compare to the others?
Thank you for sending me the rules, robertsconley! I also got a guide for class spells dndguide.net. I think that I will finish my work this week, and I will study the D&D universe. My friends have long advised me to try playing D&D board games with them, but I refused in every possible way. The other day I decided to go to a club with them and play, and I was so drawn to play this. I think that in a couple of weeks, I will already be more experienced in this game, and I will really get high. Thank you again for the link to the rules; good luck to you, my friend!
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08-02-2021, 06:17 AM | #39 | |
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https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules As well as the Starter Set and Essential Set. The Lost Mine of Phandelver is one of the best beginning D&D adventure written. If combined with the Dragon of Icespire Peak from the Essential Set then it makes for an epic campaign. |
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08-02-2021, 07:46 AM | #40 | |
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There are also some other systems out there a that are at least as simple as 5e. Some of them are simple enough that in a face-to-face group you may not need a copy of the rules. I've played Shadow of the Demon Lord and Symbaroum without buying the rules though I did pick up a free app to help make characters for Symbaroum.
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