Day 1:OCC

[MatthewVilter]

I know Trent is in all likelyhood about to get into combat but for the moment Greg is focused on getting supplies for his family. He may grab a taser and run out to help if there is a commotion outside.

[DarkForce]

Originally Posted by MatthewVilter

I know Trent is in all likelyhood about to get into combat but for the moment Greg is focused on getting supplies for his family. He may grab a taser and run out to help if there is a commotion outside.

That is fine! while you two are fully capable of getting into and out of combat on your own, You do not have to be with each other.

And give me a moment to figure out what is present in the store. This is a Hunting and survival store, not to sure that tasers would be sold there.

Also I am not deciding for you what you are taking. The whole what ever seems practical to take, wont work You need to decided once I come up with a store list(which will be shortly) what you want to take. I am not deciding for you.

[MatthewVilter]

Okay no problem. I just need to know what is available, how much it weighs, etc.

[DarkForce]

Originally Posted by MatthewVilter

Okay no problem. I just need to know what is available, how much it weighs, etc.

Pretty much as a starting point and the fact that we have no starting wealth, you have access to all of High tech, but you must keep it reasonable. Weight does matter and so does space. Just because something only weighs 10lbs does not mean it will fit any where.

Gun wise same thing be reasonable. In WA state there is not much in ways of restrictions when it comes "assault weapons" but Machine guns and automatic fire arms, Short barrel rifles/shotguns are off limits without a permit, SO it is safe to say that he would not carry these kind of weapons in the store.

Pistols are good to go again machine or auto weapons are not for sale with out a permit so he would not just have these around.

[MatthewVilter]

Okay, I'll put together a wishlist from High-Tech and you can just let me know which parts of it are in the gun store and Greg can keep his eye open for the rest going forward.

[MatthewVilter]

Greg's pie in the sky Wishlist:

Extra Batteries (HT 13) for everything, some Rechargeable with charger and/or Solar Powered-Battery Recharger ($100, 2 lbs, HT 15).
Winter Clothes (2 lbs, HT 63), Wet-Weather Gear (1 lbs, HT 64), and 2-3 sets of Ordinary Clothes (1 lbs, HT 63) for everyone.
Extra pairs of shoes.

Load-bearing equipment:
Load-Bearing Vests ($30, 2 lbs, HT 54) for Greg and Alice (and Victor if it fits).
TL 8 Small Backpacks ($120, 1.5 lbs, HT 54) for Victor (otherwise) and Greg and Alice before other LBE becomes available.
TL 8 Large Backpacks ($200, 5 lbs, HT 54) for Greg if needed over Small Backpack for capacity.

Stuff for my backpack (~38 lbs):
TL 7+ Fine Machete ($50, 1.5 lbs, HT 200).

Fireman's Axe ($100, 8 lbs, HT 24).
Wire Cutters ($30, 2 lbs, HT 25).
(More) Duct Tape ($1, 2 lbs, HT 26).
Satellite Phone ($1,000, 1 lb, HT 40).
Binoculars ($100, 4 lbs, HT 47).
North American Road Atlas ($15+, 0.1+, HT 52).
TL 7-8 Camp Stove ($40-120, 0.33-1 lb, HT 57).
Water Filter ($100, 8 lbs, HT 59).
Crash Kit ($200, 10 lbs, HT 221).

Stuff for everyone (In LBV, ~16 lbs):
Pepper Spray ($10, 1 lb?, HT 180).
TASER M26 ($400, 1.1, HT 89) plus reloads (0.25 lb).
TL 7+ Fine Survival Knife ($45, 1 lb, HT 200).

Grooming Kit ($25, 0.5 lb, HT 31).
Multi-Tool* ($50, 0.5 lb, HT 26).
Superglue ($2, neg., HT 26).
Wristwatch* (~$25, neg., HT 31).
Small Radio ($250, 0.5 lb, HT 38).
Flashlight ($20, 1 lb, HT 52) or Tactical Light (HT 52).
Compass ($25, neg., HT 52).
Topographic Map of Washington ($30, 0.1, HT 52).
GPS Receiver ($100, 0.25 lb, HT 53).
Two Water Bottles or a Water Pack ($20-25, 5 lbs, HT 53).
Emergency Blanket ($5, 0.25 lb, HT 57).
Personal Mess Kit ($15, 1 lb, HT 57).
Cigarette Lighter ($10-30, neg., HT 57).
Whistle ($5, neg., HT 58).
Signal Mirror ($5, neg., HT 58).
Laser Rescue Flare ($50, 0.1 lb, HT 58) or just a Laser Pointer (???) of whatever power.
Microfiber Towel ($30, 0.25 lb, HT 31).
Notebook w/ pen (~1.50$, 0.1 lb, HT 17).
Water Bags (???)
Fishing Kit ($5, neg., HT 58).
Water Purification Tablets ($5, neg., HT 59).
Sewing Kit ($1, neg., HT 31).
Insect Repellant ($2, 0.25 lb, HT 221).
First Aid Kit ($50, 2 lbs, HT 221).
Sunscreen ($2, 0.25 lb, HT 221).
Soap ($1, 0.25 lb, HT 221).
Vitamin Pills ($3, 0.1 lb, HT 221).
Hand Sanitizer Gel ($1, 0.01 lb, HT 221).
Many Snacks ($2, 0.25 lb, HT 35).
*I already have one.

Long term survival gear (to put in a vehicle):
TL 7-8 Portable Gasoline Generator ($600, 35-50 lbs, HT 14) and Gasoline (HT 16).
Hotplate ($20, 5 lbs, HT 32).
(Gasoline Powered) Air Compressor ($100, 125 lbs, less for an electric one?, HT 27).
Nail Gun and hose/cartridge strips/fuel canisters and charger (HT 28).
Hacksaw, Hammer, Saw, Shovel, Sledgehammer, and Bolt Cutters (HT 25).
TL 7-8 Chainsaw ($150, 13-25 lbs, HT 27).
TL 8 Circular Saw ($75, 10 lbs, HT 27).
Fire Extinguisher (HT 29).
Come-A-Long ($20, 15 lbs, 3 lbs).
Ladder (???).
Camp Shower ($20, 2 lbs, HT 59).
Chemical Toilet ($30, 7 lbs, HT 59).
Clothes Washer ($50, 4 lbs, HT 59).

Long term supplies:
Canned Food (HT 33-4).
MREs (HT 35).
Candles (HT 51).
Cord and Rope (HT 56).
Sleeping Bags (HT 56).
Tents (HT 57).
Zip Ties (???).
Gasoline (HT 16).

Encumbrance notes: If we did manage to put this together I think it would put me in medium encumbrance with the backpack. If I leave that in the vehicle (or drop it) I think I would have no encumbrance. If Alice or Victor end up encumbranced I might be able to move food and parts of their mess, grooming, and first aid kits to my pack and/or vest to relieve them (and keep their run speed up).


I think all of the stuff I want to carry in LBVs and backpacks (and a lot of the other stuff) could be found in an REI (except the Crash Kit) but I definitely don't expect Greg to be able to find all of this stuff right now. Or even exactly this list ever (even if he does do a lot of looting). I think it is maybe a bit overboard but at least it gives you a good idea of what he's looking for.


EDIT: Oops, it looks like TL 8 Clothing is half weight (HT 65). (Fixed)

[MatthewVilter]

Originally Posted by dchsknight

Pretty much as a starting point and the fact that we have no starting wealth, you have access to all of High tech, but you must keep it reasonable.

Does this mean I should pick what is available?

Oops, 1 sec, I will do that...

[MatthewVilter]

Okay, here we go. This is my shot in the dark at a “reasonable” list of loot after this little compound (all of it, not just the gun store) is looted.

List of supplies from stores + garage:

Extra Batteries (HT 13) for everything, some Rechargeable with charger.
TL 8 Winter Clothes (2 lbs, HT 63) and Wet-Weather Gear (1 lbs, HT 64) for everyone.

Load-bearing equipment:
TL 8 Small Backpacks ($120, 1.5 lbs, HT 54) for everyone.

Stuff for just me (~15.5 lbs + food):
(More) Duct Tape ($1, 2 lbs, HT 26).
Binoculars ($100, 4 lbs, HT 47).
North American Road Atlas (~$30, 1 lb, HT 52).
TL 8 Camp Stove ($120, 0.33 lb, HT 57).
Water Filter ($100, 8 lbs, HT 59).
Some MREs (HT 35).

Stuff for everyone (~14.5 lbs + food):
Pepper Spray ($10, 1 lb?, HT 180).
TL 7+ Fine Survival Knife ($45, 1 lb, HT 200).

Grooming Kit ($25, 0.5 lb, HT 31).
Multi-Tool* ($50, 0.5 lb, HT 26).
Superglue ($2, neg., HT 26).
Wristwatch* (~$25, neg., HT 31).
Small Radio ($250, 0.5 lb, HT 38).
Tactical Light ($100, 0.5 lb, HT 52).
Compass ($25, neg., HT 52).
Topographic Map of Washington ($30, 0.1, HT 52).
GPS Receiver ($100, 0.25 lb, HT 53).
Two Water Bottles ($20-25, 5 lbs, HT 53).
Emergency Blanket ($5, 0.25 lb, HT 57).
Personal Mess Kit ($15, 1 lb, HT 57).
Cigarette Lighter ($10-30, neg., HT 57).
Whistle ($5, neg., HT 58).
Signal Mirror ($5, neg., HT 58).
Laser Pointer (???) of whatever power.
Microfiber Towel ($30, 0.25 lb, HT 31).
Waterproof Notebook w/ “Space” Pen (~30$, 0.1 lb, HT 17).
Water Bags (???)
Fishing Kit ($5, neg., HT 58).
Water Purification Tablets ($5, neg., HT 59).
Sewing Kit ($1, neg., HT 31).
Insect Repellant ($2, 0.25 lb, HT 221).
First Aid Kit ($50, 2 lbs, HT 221).
Sunscreen ($2, 0.25 lb, HT 221).
Soap ($1, 0.25 lb, HT 221).
Vitamin Pills ($3, 0.1 lb, HT 221).
Hand Sanitizer Gel ($1, 0.01 lb, HT 221).
Many Snacks ($2, 0.25 lb, HT 35).
*I already have one.

Long term survival gear (loaded into vehicle):
TL 7-8 Portable Gasoline Generator ($600, 35-50 lbs, HT 14) and Gasoline (HT 16).
Electric Air Compressor ($100, 80 lbs?, HT 27).
Hammer, Saw, Shovel, Sledgehammer, and Heavy Bolt Cutters (HT 25).
Large Fire Extinguisher ($75, 20 lbs, HT 29).
Come-A-Long ($20, 15 lbs, 3 lbs).
Ladder (???).

Long term supplies (also loaded into vehicle):
Canned Food (HT 33-4).
MREs (HT 35).
Candles (HT 51).
Cord and Rope (HT 56).
Sleeping Bags (HT 56).
Tents (HT 57).
Zip Ties (???).
Gasoline (HT 16).

[Skullcrusher]

What kind of vehicle do you have? not sure all that is gonna fit....and you go to agun shop and take any guns? Is Greg a pacifist?

[Skullcrusher]

Also looking at the map of the compound it looks like we have everything we need here...food...gas...vehicles...guns...a fence with barbed wire....guns...why leave unless we really really have to. Nothing has indicated we have to leave just yet. Just saying