01-19-2015, 06:29 PM | #21 |
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If I were Harry I'd be darn proud to be the first English royal named Harry to serve in an active campaign as an infantry officer since 1066. Or since 1415 at least depending on whether or not that Harry dismounted. No reason why he shouldn't wear his uniform; he's earned it.
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01-19-2015, 06:56 PM | #22 | |
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01-19-2015, 07:56 PM | #23 | |
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Quite so. It is to bad that we can't go back in time and murder the guy who thought of such an eye-torture as the tux. Still it does have the advantage of looking stern and stoic which is I suppose what you would want an imperial caste to look like. "But sure, formal civilian dress may be subject to fashion flux. Then again, it may not." Military fashion has a surprising amount of flux too, and not just for utilitarian reasons. The fritz helmet replaced the classic WWII skullcaps in the US and there is some reason for it(the fritz is a pretty good helmet by one or two accounts though GIs liked the WWII helmet because it could double as a bowl). But there was no reason for the pickelhaube which is simply ridiculous and that was fashionable in the US in the late 1800s because the Wars of Unification made Prussians look cool. The importation of the beret was mainly because of it's association with commandos even though it is not traditional for the US and there is no reason not to have an updated forage cap which can be hardy enough for campaign(I used to have a ski cap that looked a little like a Civil War forage cap and it was very useful when I went walking) and is part of American tradition.
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01-21-2015, 02:54 PM | #24 |
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Infantry officer? I thought he'd been deployed while in the Blues & Royals (a cavalry Guards regiment) and the Army Air Corps.
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01-21-2015, 05:06 PM | #25 | |
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In the British Army, your regimental identify is important. You can transfer to a different regiment, but it's a big deal, almost as much so as transferring to the Royal Navy or RAF. But a regimental identity is a social thing: a regiment is not a combat formation in the way it is in many other armies. An infantry regiment contains one or more battalions. If several battalions are deployed together, they are formed into a brigade, and it's unlikely that the battalions will be from the same regiment. |
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01-21-2015, 06:08 PM | #26 | |
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Still it is a coincidence. And he had better luck then the other Harry.
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01-21-2015, 07:11 PM | #27 | |
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Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester was an infantry (Rifles) officer during part of his regular career 1922 to 1937 (hussars in the rest), but when he was deployed in 1940 it was with an armoured brigade. There can't be many regiments left that have more than one battalion after the last thirty years of disbandments and mergers. Except that Royal Artillery Regiment, of course. That still has about twenty regiments in it and a few loose companies, troops, and batteries.
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01-22-2015, 02:00 AM | #28 | |
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01-22-2015, 08:31 AM | #29 | |
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01-22-2015, 08:53 AM | #30 |
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That's what has happened to some of the amalgamated regiments. The process of reducing their numbers has been ongoing for about 130 years (during WWI & WWII, they didn't create new infantry regiments so much as add lots of battalions to existing ones), so most of the sensible ideas have been tried at various times.
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